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So, now we’ve reached one of those topics I might not have the easiest time discussing, but I’m going to try, because, after all, this is still a huge thing when you have an ostomy.
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:25 pm
my stoma nurse said we cant eat anthing raw, nuts. seeds.lettice. tomatoes or friut only bananas,,,,,
iv just read on a post that someone ate a salad sandwich, i would love to eat salad,

ANY IDEARS.


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:50 pm
I have a transverse colostomy and eat a salad that includes nuts on it almost everyday.  I haven't had any issues.  I eat fruit with seeds too.  Mostly strawberries.


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:52 pm
Hi I had surgery in May 2010 I have recently started eatin lettuce, onion and peppers and had no problems.  I believe its just a case of trying certain foods and makin sure you chew food properly xx


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:55 pm
Hi maggie33 ~ Whenever someone gives me a rule, I always like to understand the "WHY?" behind that rule, and so you may want to ask your stoma nurse the reason(s) for her "No Raw Rule".  As for me, I have been on a mostly raw diet for almost 2 years after studying about the damaging effect heat has on many nutrients — I feel great and have absolutely no problems with blockages.


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:58 pm
You can absolutely eat salad! It was, and still is, one of my greatest food related pleasures after having my ostomy surgery. Prior to that I could never eat salad and if I tried to, there would be my undigested salad floating in the toilet shortly thereafter when I went to the bathroom. (Sorry to be so graphic). Just take it slow, chew carefully and drink plenty of fluids to help wash it down. I even eat popcorn, but the same rules apply...moderation, chew, chew, chew, and lots of fluids.  Buon appetito!
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:32 pm
I believe that most blockages occur with people who have had several surgeries on their colon, so they may have to limit the amount of fibrous foods (salad, nuts, raw vegetables) they eat.

Personally I eat everything an ileostomate apparently shouldn't including salads, nuts, seeds and popcorn, don't chew my food any more than normal, don't drink a lot of fluids, and have not suffered any ill effects since my surgery in November 2008 (this was also my first and only surgery).

Try a small salad and see how you go, it's all just trial and error.  I got the go-ahead from my surgeon whilst in hospital to eat whatever and whenever I wanted and have done exactly that.  I am healthier (and heavier!) than I have ever been, even before I developed Crohn's disease 20 years ago.

Eat, drink and be merry!
Cheers,
Jo x  
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:12 pm
wow thanks everyone, im going shopping in the morning and will buy salad stuff, i will try a little and see how i go on,
oh my stoma nurse said i cant eat any thing raw because my body cant digest it now and it will cause blockages,
forgot to ask about mushrooms she said no to them also,

PS IV HAD ALL MY COLON TAKEN OUT. I HAVE AN ILEOSTOMY.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE,


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:10 pm
                                 
maggie33 wrote:
wow thanks everyone, im going shopping in the morning and will buy salad stuff, i will try a little and see how i go on,
oh my stoma nurse said i cant eat any thing raw because my body cant digest it now and it will cause blockages,
forgot to ask about mushrooms she said no to them also,

PS IV HAD ALL MY COLON TAKEN OUT. I HAVE AN ILEOSTOMY.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE,



Rubbish, where does she get all that from? We are all different so a bit of trial and error will be required - maybe keep a food diary of what happens when you introduce something new, but as everybody has said, what she has told you isn't really the case at all .....  When I am not feeling nauseous (which at the moment is just about 24/7!) I can eat virtually anything - the more fibrous it is, the thicker my output .... but if I eat it at dinner nowadays it pops my bag off overnight, so things are changing with me.

But when I am 'well' (which is never really but I do/did have better days when I can feel normal-ish ...) I start the day with a huge bowl full of home made sugar free granola with oats, rye, wheatgerm, raisins, figs, apricots, dried blueberries and cranberries, sunflower and pumpkin seeds, linseeds and a portion of fresh fruit - it really fills me up ....

As for salad, I prefer salad to most veggies anyway so would have that in preference to veg for a meal (cauliflower though thickens things up loads) Lettuce tends to come through undigested but has never blocked me up (actually the only thing that has is when I overdosed on lots of nuts and raisins, forgetting about the ileo until it was too late ...!)

I am a bit like Jo - don't chew anymore than normal really, except maybe my breakfast subconsciously - and mushrooms, I put into everything!

Good look with tomorrow's salad!

Rach xxx
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:22 pm
aw thanks rach, im going show my stoma nurse these answers on thursday,
i will let you know how i get on,

cant beleive you eat nuts and mushrooms, yummy im looking foreward to trying them too.
hope you feel better soon, its awful to be in pain day in day out, big (((((((((((hug))))))))))


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:16 pm
I don't eat much lettuce, but when I want a salad, I buy the chopped head lettuce for tacos.  It satisfies my graving and when I chew it well, it doesn't seem to cause problems.  I did notice that tomatoes and mushrooms, don't digest well, but I eat them in moderation...just hate to give them up.  I agree it is trial and error when it comes to what is going to bother each of us.  There will probably be something that you will have to give up eating, but you won't know until you try it...gummy bears is one thing that I found didn't digest very well... Bon Appetite


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:36 pm
My husband had a total colectomy because of ulcerative colitis two years ago, and he eats salad rather often. Everyone's body is different, and we all react to food in different ways, but I don't think I've ever met an ostomate who literally cannot eat a salad with their dinner. Naturally, take it slow anytime you introduce a new food, and chew very well!


Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:28 pm
"I'V HAD ALL MY COLON TAKEN OUT. I HAVE AN ILEOSTOMY " (I have as well for 5 years now.)

Maggie:
I eat nuts, popcorn, mushrooms. I go lightly on the salads because it gasses me up. As for mushrooms, "I'm not sure they even slow down as they go thru" Ha!   I really think the key is CHEW, CHEW, CHEW and drink plenty of liquids (this is very important). Thank God I've been fortunate in 5 years I've had no blockages. ENJOY food and remember try new things slowly and in moderation.

Happy New Year to all


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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:12 pm
yes i would have to agree veggies means lots of gas for me to much fiber lots of gas my gaseroligist gave me a list of foods that are way gassy and said eat one thing at atime to see what bothers you and if it dont then happydays and since i quit eating veggies i realy dont have the gassy or bloating they caused


Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:36 am
Hi Maggie Smile  ileostomate of 34 years here....I eat LOTS of salads and raw veggies but I just chew it all very, very good.  I eat nuts and popcorn and pretty much everything I was long ago told I shouldn't lol  Smile  and have few probs.   Everyone is different hun, you are likely to have more gas or possibly a little prob with things not wanting to pass through if you're not careful, ...so if you experiment just take it easy, try things in small portions and really chew it well if you do.   Personally I seem to have more problems if I eat large portions of mashed potatoes or a ton of mushrooms, wow, tummy ache for Doe time lol ....but being the Doe that I am, I do it again and again.   If you're really wanting a salad, try a teeny bit at first but be careful SmileSmileSmile


Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:46 am
hi i also agree with everyone that you could try things slowly and see how you go. i had colon cancer which is why i had most of my colon removed and have recenty been changing my diet to include a lot of ant-cancer foods this includes lots of veg and fruit. had raspberries yesterday and was ok with them. i think it is important to stay healthy and eat healthy foods  so i'm glad you got such a positive response here and good advice. good luck
marge
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