Thanks Susan, your first paragraph cleared up everything for me.
aTraveler
Dec 21, 2024 3:44 am
aTraveler
Dec 21, 2024 4:10 am
"I never change just the bag. I do both always. A 2-piece drainable Mio Click Sensura.
Reasons to change the bag only depend on why.
But my thread was about the entire thing being replaced since the skin was at fault."
The above clears it up for me. I hadn't realized that many persons with 2-piece appliances and open-end pouches refer to the entire assembly as the "bag".
To answer your query about reasons to change the bag only — closed-end pouches.
I need to mentally make a note that many users, not just those with ileostomies, use open-end pouches.
It would have never occurred to me if someone said their bag was leaking that they could be referring to leaks underneath their wafer. 🙄
I am not too old to learn, thanks for shedding some light for me.
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Posted by: iMacG5
Hi Crossley. Ya know, I think it’s all about feelings. I don’t mean the pain feelings which could control everything. I mean the feelings inside our heads, our hearts and even our souls. I mean the feelings of who we are now compared to who we were; how we accept our situation or maybe we don’t. My wife asked how I felt and I said, “like crap”. She asked what hurt and I answered, “Nothing hurts, well, everything hurts, I don’t know, It all sucks.” That was a long time ago. You question if your feelings are normal. How normal is it to relocate your butt hole to your belly where it’s usually in the way of your belt and, you know. But that’s where we are and for lots of us we are so much better off than we were before, physically. Emotionally, psychologically, well, that might be a different story. I believe talk therapy is wonderful if we could find a real empathic or sympathetic listener. So guess what! I found MAO and began “talking” with a keyboard with some of the wisest, kindest most sympathetic and compassionate folks on the planet. Regardless of where we’ve been, lots of folks here have been there and worse places and found their way back healthier and happier. We really do help each other.
Keep “talking”,
Mike
warrior
Dec 21, 2024 5:18 am
No worries. Common issues. Common misunderstandings.
In the car trade, we use generic terms. Now American cars and foreign car makers use the same language when troubleshooting on-board diagnosis—that damn check engine light. Also referred to as "MIL" (Maintenance Indicator Light) has all the same terminology.
It wasn't like that in the past.
We here don't have generic terms. What you may call a wafer, I thought was a barrier ring—made sense at one time.
You know Nilla wafers, the cookie? They don't look like a bag to me. Specifically, a one-piece that attaches to your body.
Where do you see a wafer from this round cookie image? Yeah, I'm tired. Shift ended. It's a bit after midnight.
Like you, I change the entire appliance. I think you said that or were quoting me? Zzzzzzz.
Um, I never say my bag leaks. My appliance leaks indeed with bad adhesion from irritated skin.
Keep in mind the title was not my design but A.I. rewrote that title, not me. And to me, it has a different effect.
I got a 45-minute drive home.
I will add when there. But terms definitions are really misplaced for simpletons like me. TTYS.
(talk to you soon)
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