This discussion is about finding the best way to manage odors and lubrication in ostomy pouches. A person with an ostomy for three years is having trouble with liquid lubricating deodorants pooling at the drain outlet and causing a mess. They also find that scented versions can cause nausea. They are curious about sachet-style products and are looking for advice on what might work better. Here are some insights and suggestions shared by others:

1. Diamond sachets, which are black carbon bead packets, can help control odor and thicken or liquefy the output. They are available on Amazon and other suppliers. Some users have noticed more loose carbon beads in newer lots, but they still find them effective.

2. Using peppermint Altoids in the pouch is another method some people find successful. It might require experimenting with the number and size of mints to see noticeable results.

3. If using liquid deodorant or lubricant, try using even less than a small squirt, as over-application can lead to pooling at the tail outlet.

4. Comparing different liquid brands might help. For example, M-9 Deodorant from Convatec can leak blue dye through weak seams in Convatec pouches but not through Hollister pouches. Hollister Adapt Lubricating Deodorant Gel is thicker, clear, and stays in place better. It can be added through the top before wearing the pouch or through the drain after emptying.

5. As an alternative to scent beads, try using half a teaspoon of laundry scent beads, like Downy Unstopables, along with a small squirt of liquid lubricant in a clean pouch. The beads dissolve gradually and help keep odors down.

6. Revel offers a product called "It’s in the Bag" lubricant, available on their website. They have a free sample program, and the eucalyptus-scented option has received positive feedback.

7. For an internal deodorant option, Devrom chewable tablets can effectively reduce stool odor from the inside out.

8. For emptying and cleaning, using a deep or utility sink with a directional spray head to rinse the pouch three times, then adding odor control products, can help keep bags odor-free for 3 to 4 days in one-piece systems.