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Flange comes off if wet.

Posted by Tampabay, on Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:07 pm
Hi , I have a Question in reply to swimming with an ostomy,I had been wondering all along. I know A lot of ostomate say they swim , I had my colostomy for 2 months and I don't even take a shower with out covering it with plastic because once it gets wet it comes off. I use 2 piece.
please let me know am I doing something wrong?I am now wondering How does every body take a shower?
Thank you,your input is appreciate,
Reply by lottagelady, on Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:55 pm
Hi, something is definitely not right there ...... how long do you manage to keep it on if you haven't got it wet? Do you change it just before you shower? I often find that mines sticks better when I have had a bath - almost like the warm water has helped it to adhere more .... bit more info required I think, but am sure someone will be able to help you out ....
Rach xx
Reply by CALYPSO, on Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:47 pm
Hi Tampabay,
My idea of heaven is standing/sitting in the shower without anything stuck to my body.
The only time I feel really clean is when the warm water is gently flowing. I shower in the morning before breakfast, while my gut is still asleep, sometimes there is 'activity' but it's only slight and going straight down the plughole.  I use a single pouch for my Ileostomy amd double for a fistula on my about bag lady!   I admit to having trouble with both appliance but the shower is the one place I enjoy.

Stop bothering to keep it dry, get into the shower without the flange and enjoy!

Kindest regards
Past Member
Reply by Past Member, on Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:57 pm
I must say I was wondering the same about swimming....if I get the back of the wafer (Coloplast 2 piece ) wet the glue gets soap like and the adhesion is lost..... therefore when I shower I put a strip of 3M 'Transport' ( that is its Brand Name) tape across the top and down each side... I use ONLY this brand of tape as others I,ve tried don,t seem to stick as well... Also if the wafer lifts away from the skin I tape it down thus allowing the glue to activate again with body heat and restick... I also do this if it is rally hot( the glue is none to perspiration  friendy, driving for an extended period or out sailing where I am constanly bending over etc. Doing so I usually get 6 to 7 days before I have to change the  wafer....Back to swimming... does anyone have a way to swim and not have to change their wafer... if so, a how to would be appreciated Thanks
Reply by Urostomy Guy, on Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:22 pm
Hi, what brand of bag do you use? I have been using HOLLISTER bags for 2yrs and never have one problem, i take showers and swim, although after a shower i use a hairdryer on low and dry the adhesive area.
                                                                     Urostomy Guy
Past Member
Reply by Past Member, on Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:51 am
Hi Bradenton;

I shower and swim with both my appliances on. I use 2 piece Colostomy and 1 piece Urostomy. I "picture frame" the flange with Nexcare Waterproof Tape. You can buy this at Wal-mart/Target/CVS for about $4.00 a roll. Swimming in a pool with Chlorine or salt water Ocean tends to lessen the time between changes. Showering has no affect on that time.
Please keep in mind that even after 2 months, your stoma and area are changing, so it could be another couple of months before that area settles down..
Reply by beatrice, on Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:37 pm
Here is my experience (2 piece Convatec system).

Showering: I shower with my appliance on. If it's a longer shower, the adhesive does start to peel away from the body. And I can tell that the glue overall is mushy. This is especially true if the flange has been on for 4+ days (I get 6 days from the flange portion). If it's the first or second day for the flange ... not so much softening of the glue/peeling.

Swimming: I must be hot stuff - because lake/pool swimming causes the same as above.

Hot tub/bath tub: flange portion loosens after about 10 minutes - so I do neither of these right now.

Looking into Sure Seal Rings. Have used tape, but for it to be effective, I have to cover the entire adhesive area.
Reply by sherrybear, on Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:55 pm
i se glad wrap seal it works great. i also swim i have had my mate since is on my left side. i went to a smaller waffer and it holds a long time. don't be afraid to shower.
Past Member
Reply by Past Member, on Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:41 pm
You haven't had your ostomy long, so perhaps your skin is still getting used to the adhesive.  Maybe try a different product (all the companies send out freebies) to see if another works.  If you get a good seal when you first put the flange on, it will be right for showering and bathing.  Mine lasts at least a week and I shower every day (have to, it wakes me up!).  I also occasionally "picture frame" the flange with HydroFrame (a Welland product) which is available from most ostomy suppliers.  There ain't nothing getting out or into this stuff!  Even if you do spring a leak the HydroFrame holds it until you can find a bathroom!

Hope you find a solution, I can imagine how frustrating it must be.
Reply by lottagelady, on Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:01 pm
I also occasionally "picture frame" the flange with HydroFrame (a Welland product) which is available from most ostomy suppliers.  There ain't nothing getting out or into this stuff!  Even if you do spring a leak the HydroFrame holds it until you can find a bathroom!

Ha - I use that and it and my pouch often let me down - a notable time was last week when it was running down my leg in Marks and Spencers - was almost in my shoes by the time I had driven home!!!! Good job it was throwing it down with rain at the time, everyone was soaked, but maybe not quite as whiffy! Grrrrrrrrrrr
Reply by Tampabay, on Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:14 am
Thank you all for your reply, but the problem I am having now it does not stick to me any longer than a day,I use 2 piece Convetec, but I did try others with no better results,I  feel I am at the end of the rope I don't know what to do, so reading about how you can keep it on for a week  I can not understand what am I doing wrong? I have an ostomy nurse and she keeps telling me not to get upset we will figure it out but it's so frustrating.If anyone out there can think of any thing please, please let me know.I do take shower every day with it off because it does fall off,out of the shower,the tape around the flange it just lifts up and I have used every tap you have mentioned they just don't hold.,also they are tearing my skin off.Thanks for listening.
Reply by ostralian, on Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:54 am
HI Tampa Bay
I use a one-piece Coloplast pouch and though it was fine for years, I found as I got older I started to get a few wrinkles around the stoma area (and other places!!) and got a few small leaks.  I now use Eakin Seals (Eakin Slims 839005) under my appliance and find they are marvellous. No more leaks since then. I also use 1" Micropore  tape to hold the pouch in place more securely. The seals can be stretched and moulded to fit around the stoma.   I shower with it all in place, and don't have any probs with it coming loose.  

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