Happy and high no pain problem?

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mooza
Hope i get someoneS' attention I think i have complained on the forums enough or not about serious unreal PAIN now am in painmanagement and seeing a dr. just another one
HAVE A NEW THOUGHT WHAT IS WRONG WITH TAKING A BIT TOO MUCH PAINRELEIF AND FEEL HIGH NOT SOO BAD PAIN.AND HAPPYISH OR TAKE WHAT A DR.NO IDEA WHAT PAIN YOU HAVE THINKS IS BEST NOT ENOUGH PAIN MEDS MISERABLE AND LOW For now happy and fine (not really) Dont want rehab cut me open again and cant they smooth out the nerves i dunno grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..Doing their way of pain medice right now cant stand it ..
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SheliaBaby
Yes Mooz....you got my attention LOL

And nothing wrong with taking a little pain medicine when you need to. Problem is....I know you really are hurting and I worry about you taking too much without intending too.
So, even though I have the hardest time understanding a lot of what you say........I REALLY need my translator around.....otherwise no tellin what this girl will say!! LOL

I hope this doctor can help you....give you some kind of "relief"....I know you need it.

Shelia
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You certainly bring up a good point Mooza, if you're "high" then no worries, but are you still in pain while you're high?! As far as I can tell strong drugs never seem to work even when taken in large doses, they just seem to "mask" the pain for a bit and then you end up addicted (maybe). Personally I would rather get the "warm and fuzzies" from alcohol!

I reckon you should wait and see what the pain management doc has to say. The problem with being on a constant high is you will eventually come crashing back down to earth with a thud, in more pain than you had before.

Hope you find a way out of it all Mooz.
IamSam
Hey Mooza! Long term pain management is very hard to accomplish when chronic severe pain is involved. Your tolerance levels rise with time making it more and more difficult to achieve relief. If your getting blitzed without pain relief then it's time to seek another form of management. Perhaps nerve stimulation. My real concern is addiction.

Surgically speaking, there is no way to "smooth out" nerves. Like all tissue, the nerves become victims of localized scarring. There are only a few procedures that involve the interruption of nerve conduction/chains to alleviate a symptom. Nerve pathways are very complex and bifurcated, interrupting these may cause conduction problems with adjacent structures that may adversely affect the patient or possibly cause even more pain.

Good luck! Keep us informed!
mooza
Yes mooza here ok agree seen painmanagement doctor nup already tried wat h said ..My dr is a paraplegic (spell) yes am high now am trying not 2 feel this its agony i went 4 massage even though its fruitless .So pain dr was right knowing massage dont work but our brain i dunno

YES I HAVE AN ADDICTION NOW 1000mg of tramdol it is a bit potent i take way tooo much and its liquid form so i dont measure it now i just sip all the medicine .

thanx sheila what do you mean you cant understand me ???i am your translator

I ONLY CAME 2 THIS CRAZY PAIN. AND HIGH CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN BOING FOR 2 HALF YEARS AM SURE U GUYS WOULD GO NUTS

AND IFEEL CRAZY BUT IN TRU LIFE A A BIT NUTTY HAVE HAD MELT DOWN I SEEN PROF HENRY HE ISNT SURE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND I AGREE WE DID FIND OUT I HAV A HERNIA INSIDE AND ON OTHER SIDE OF BELLY HAD ILEOSTOMY ON THE RIGHT BUT DONT THINK THATS A REASON SO IF MY PROF DR HENRY DEBINSKI CANT WORK IT OUT I AM STUFFED MEANS HE REALLY IS A SMART YOUGISH PROFF NOW KNOWN HIM 4 16 YEARS I THINK MORE SURGERY TO CLEAN UP WE R TOLD TO KNOW OUR BODYS BLOODY HELL DO I KNOW MINE ..I CAN MEDITATE BUT AM CONSUMED WITHTHIS STUFF ..PROF HENRY SUGGEST I SEE MY SURGEON FRIDAY.. 29TH OCT....FOR NOW I A HIGH AND HAVE TO STAY HIGH NOT ALWAYS FUN CORRECTO COS I NEED TO ..SHEILA LOL THIS IS MY HAND THIS I S M Y H A N D YOU DONT GET IT ITS U BUT NOT U WEIRD TAKE YOURSELF OUT OF YORSELF DONT KNOW HOW 2 TELL U BUT IT SEEMS TO JUST HAPPENS AND WITH OUT MEDICATION THIS IS ALL JUMBLED ..,....I NEED NO PAIN GRRRRR CHOOSE LIFE I WENT FOR OPERATION CME OUT WITH AGONY THE HAVE YO DO SOMTHING DONT KNOW IF SURGEON WILL WANT 2 HELP BUT I HAV KNOWN CHIP FOR 15 YEARS LOLOLOL I DONT KNOW BUT THANK YOU YOUR BEAUTIFULL PEOPLE ..BYE 4 NOW SAM ?? ARE YOU A SEGEON OR DR..,HOW DO U KNOW ALL THIS MATEY XXXXXXXXXXXX
 
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SheliaBaby
Hey Mooz.....I can't understand you about half the time...and pretty sure you get a kick out of it. LOL That's okay darlz....we will work things out and maybe you can keep this "Shelia" out of trouble.....at least try to keep me from making the REALLY bad mistakes with the lingo....even though they tickle you I know.

HANG IN THERE.....Shelia
IamSam

Hey Mooza,

No! I am not a Doctor or a Surgeon! I am a Surgical (first) Assistant. I can offer some insight into the actual surgical procedures and techniques.

Questions about your own surgery or condition should always go to your Surgeon/Doctor/Physician/ET/health care professional.

mooza
sam y dont u meet me in chat room lol make appointment with u i believe u r right i may go to chinese Dr. here in melbourne sooo many people said he is soo good.. so U think more surgey wouldnt help dont tell me it wont if this got worse i already got baddd thoughts of y in this life should i stay in agony itsss sooo hard makes me want to cry just thinking this and reading what i just wrote or Sam i dont know about assistand sorry what eva y said here in australia what would your profession be called here i hav no idea wat u mean tell me more maybe its not viscreal pain (think it is) i am a good person i volunteer for our association i know about colostomys ileostomys (ileo is me ) urostomys and all the products our members get for only $45 a year anything u want pants hernia belts i am on the phones there..Talking DEAD i have had evertime i am rostered somone rings to tell of member passed away ..the other members i work with r g8 but in 60s 70s and retired i retired at 33 left work on a bad note ..sam can u breif me on this nerve pain pleaseeeee ps i hav a tens machine it needt to hurt more of my pain so it helps but so much this thing can do xxmooza mare... pss Y DO I KEEP U FROM DOING BAD THINGS SHEILA AM I DOING IT 4 U LOLOL SORRY I USE A BIT OF TXT WEN I WRITE IN CHAT ROOM LOL I REALLY USE ALOT OF AUSSIE SLANG I REALY FORGET U CANT UNDERSTAND ..LL ITS IN ME BLOOD DARLZZ..GRRRR PSSS DONT THINK MY POUCH IS BAD ANYMORE LOL PAIN FROM ABDO REFFERED TO BACK BUT FEEL BELLY HURTING GOD GRRRR ITS AGONY AM TRYING TO TAKE MY MIND OFF IT AND YES DRUGS DONT WORK BUT I WILL TAKE MORE XXXXX
IamSam

Mooza wrote:

I would never tell you this!! Surgery to relieve your symptoms is solely and entirely up to your Surgeon/Physician!!!!! I simply stated that I don't believe that there is a surgical way to smooth out nerves!
Mooza wrote:
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cut me open again and cant they smooth out the nerves i dunno

I do believe that your suffering from chronic pain! I just don't know if I can offer any help that you have not already tried. Are you seeing a pain management specialist?

WOUNDED DOE
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT response IamSam!!!
Mooza I am worried about you!! nbsp; nbsp;I too know of pain and see different doctors and is no secret I am now using a bit more narcotics to 'deal' with all the pains including the severe fibromyalgia, they are all legal RX's from my doctors but as mentioned, the tolerance levels rise, indeed, and I find I need higher doses of the prescribed meds to be of any help :/ nbsp; nbsp;......do be careful and keep us up with how you are doing!!! nbsp; nbspWe care about you dear!!
~Your Doe
lillie961

Mooza, can you please tell me where your pain is coming from? Where is the pain located? I have a lot of pain from my colostomy. I can not find anyone who shares my pain. I have tried so many different narcotics and none of them touch the pain. nbsp; nbsp;My doctor has just gave me Marinol which is like marijauna. It does not make me high just sleepy. I do not abuse my drugs I only take them as they are prescribed, because of the fear of becoming dependent on them. I have seen 4 ostomy nurses and three doctors. They think it is nerve damage which they say will heal in time. I have been in pain for 6 months now and they say it could take up to a year to heal. I am on chemo which they say it cause it to take longer to heal. It is the stoma itself that is causing my pain. I have not found anyone who has had this problem.

Sandy
mooza
lillee yeas the pain injaround the stoma yes u r right the pain killers dont touch the sides then i went to painmanagement they said i also have sore back its reffered pain visceral pain.. Injury to soft organs to in our bodys. I have no idea i just got one scan back which said i have some liquid in the pelvis and 2 hernias small so they say ?? I am trying to get to the pain management team its just doing excercising ho hum i couldnt stand tues,Morning so i have missed to courses..Telling me nothing i can damwell do so well i am addicted to 1000mg Tramal Now trying lirica nerve pain $74 or 150mg for $105 government wont subsidise the medication wats new if u only hada stoma it will hurt in that spot unless u had more than one surgery wish i could help NO DOPE for me i want to WORK again grr and grrrr for u lol GOOD LUCK HONEY MARE XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
swiffer
I have no problem with anyone taking meds when they need to. I was up to 21 pills a day before surgery. The only way i could do it was {i think it is a good idea for you also} to get a daily/weekly pill box. That way you know when you had your last dose.
Pinky
Hi Lillie - I think your doctors are right when they say at least part of your pain could be from the chemo. Most chemo promotes neuropathy that can feel like tingling, burning, or numbing (buzzing).

Lyrica is a possibility for nerve pain, as is Cymbalta (which I take) and/or the older anti-depressants such as Elavil or Norpramin.

Also, it is important to differentiate between "addiction" and "tolerance". It's generally people without the need for medication that get addicted. When you need medication for pain, you may stay at the same level or your tolerance may cause you to go up in milligrams etc., but you will be able to stay on top of your dose, not vice versa.

I'm interested in the Marinal. Is that the aerosol form of THC, like they use in Canada? If that's working for you, I say hooray!
mooza
THANKS GUYS I FOUND RELIEF ITS CALLED liyrica I HAV 2 MUCH SCAR TISSUE ITS SO RIGHT YEP ADDITED BUT THE LYRICA IS SOOO EXPENSIVE $117 I MITE PAY HAVE A PRESCRIPTION GOT LOTS OF SAMPLES THEY REALLY WORK SO I HAD 1 OP 2 MANY SO PAIN GETS REFFERED TO MY BACK I WAS TOLD THIS NOW I KNOW ITS TRU..HAV TO THINK HOW MY GP SAID SHE WILL TRY MORE SAMPLES TRAMADOL I DONT KNOW NEVER BEEN THROUGH ADDICTION ALL THROUGH THE 8 OPS SOO PEED OFF THE PAIN IS REALLY INTOLERABLE I READ ABOUT SCAR TISSUE WENT TO MY SURGEON BUT I KNEW HE WOULDNT DO ANYMORE CAUSE ANOTHER CUT COULD BE EVEN WORSE OMG SO TABLETS BUT THESES LYRICA HAV SIDE AFFECTS BIG TIME XXX MARE
lottagelady
Hi Mooza - have a look at the signs and symptoms of Fibromyalgia - that is what Lyrica is often and most commonly used for - does any of it ring a bell other than the back pain? Just a thought lass ...
Rach xx
SheliaBaby
mooz, if they provide so much without paying how come they will not provide the lyrica?
Also, what are the side effects? I know that many people take it here in the United States.
Glad you found SOMETHING.....Shelia
leoluckygirl
I tried alll the Lyrica cymbalta savella I could not use them, I found with me i dont absorb meds like vitamins, I have to take high doses to get the effect of a regular dose of medication, I still have pain, and my RA doctor is trying everything, So I sleep so I dont feel pain lol
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