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Bags

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:17 pm
i have illeostomy just wonder how often you guys out there have to change a bag i can go 5  days with the one i have now
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:00 am
I am able to get 5 to 7 days for my wafer as I use a 2 piece system for Hollister. However, I change my bag once a day.
I use eakin seals each time I change my waffer.

When changing my waffer I also use a hair dryer on low to help the adhesion. I pick this tip off this site.

I have once in the past got 12 days. I only did this as a trial.

Mark
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:52 pm
Oh my .... I daren't go beyond 3 days! Use a Hollister one piece which gives in around the plastic ring if I leave it any longer ...
Rach xx
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:43 pm
I really don't know how long I could actually go before changing the wafer, since I haven't figured out how to take a shower without the wafer losing it's suction, I only go a few days.  Any ideas of how to take a daily shower and still use the same wafer?  I've tried the saran wrap method, but that doesn't work very well.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:01 pm
I use a two piece system although I irrigate and have little to no stomal activity I change the bag every day and the wafer every 3 days.  I shower every evening unless I have a leak from the wafer, then an extra shower for the day! However, our quite hot Aussie Summers do demand two showers per day on many occasions.  For security, when I change wafers, I dry the area around the stoma with my wife's hair dryer set on low, (yes, my special lady of 49 years is very patient with me) then use a wipe on skin barrier, hair dryer again, then apply the wafer.  I don't have any problems with showering or summer perspiration.  Being 77 and having screws and rods etc in my spine plus bi lateral knee replacements, I don't surf anymore so I cannot offer any thoughts on surfing.  I have a permanent Colostomy by the way, from Colorectal Cancer so there is ro chance of a reversal everything having been removed.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:40 pm
I've had my colostomy for almost 18months and started out with Convatec but changed because I was allergic to the moldable.  I use a 2 piece Hollister system that lasts me about 5-7 days.  Usually 7 days.  I change the bag and the flange at the same time.  The bag is a drainable bag and I use water to flush the bag each time I empty it.  This gives me a feeling of security so it works for me.  I can't say I've noticed any particular reason for having to change it earlier.  It's usually because I didn't get it seated on comfortably and it was felt irritated but there was no problem with my skin.  Best to err of the side of caution and change it before it needs to be.
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:15 pm
Grammybec-

I feel your pain!  You've heard on hear before the concept of 'picture framing' the wafer with clear or water proof tape.  I and many others do that to get the wafer to stand up better during showers, regular wear, etc.  I have to reapply the picture framing tape twice per day do keep the wafer outside tape in stable condition.  I get3-4 days from a wafer but wouldn't ever get that long without picture framing.  And some times I only get 1-2 days but that is rare.  Used closed end bag and change 1-3 times each day.

Adabar,

This technique of yours withstands the summer perspiration well, aye?  That is one of my concerns, weak points.  I will reread your post and if I have Q I'll email you.  I'd like to progress with that concern.  Thanks.

Loren
Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:43 pm
i have a one piece and empty it when needed thanks for your replys
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:34 pm
I've had my ileostomy for six years and have used Hollister one piece.  I change every 3 to 4 days, any longer and it deteriorates around the stoma.  I tried the Schena EZ Clean which works great but their pouch would not stick with all that water washing through, went back to Hollister.  Try to spend as little time as possible caring for this, get on with my life.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:41 pm
                                 
Suz2 wrote:
I've had my colostomy for almost 18months and started out with Convatec but changed because I was allergic to the moldable.  I use a 2 piece Hollister system that lasts me about 5-7 days.  Usually 7 days.  I change the bag and the flange at the same time.  The bag is a drainable bag and I use water to flush the bag each time I empty it.  This gives me a feeling of security so it works for me.  I can't say I've noticed any particular reason for having to change it earlier.  It's usually because I didn't get it seated on comfortably and it was felt irritated but there was no problem with my skin.  Best to err of the side of caution and change it before it needs to be.


Same here Suz2
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:55 pm
Grammybec - I really do not understand why your bag loses suction during a shower every time - I have had really hot baths and not lost it - in fact I often find the warmth helps it's adhesion... what make and type do you use, maybe someone here can give you some tips to help you keep it on, that must be so frustrating for you?
Rach xx
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:19 pm
I've found using a spray bottle of "skin prep" made by smith& nephew works the best for adhesion. Spray it on and your skin becomes stickier, if that makes sense .
Cheers Bob
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:43 pm
I've never gone more than 24 hours without a bag change, sometimes it looks as if it might have lasted one more day, but I never know that until it's removed. Usually, it's starting to disintegrate, I must be full of acid! Taking a shower requires a bag change as it looks in a sorry state soaking wet and a shower and bag change takes me a whole hour. Very important to make sure the skin is dried properly otherwise the adhesive won't stick, and likewise if it's too cold in the toilet it takes longer and I have to leave my hand over the area until I'm sure it's safe to continue normal everyday life -no point in rushing these things and regretting later. I am 85% certain I'll be ok for the day and night,these days, but I'd like to be 100%,doubt that day will ever come though!
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:53 pm
I am hooked on the Convatec wafer and bag with some stoma paste around the wafer /stoma hole. I might just try some of that spray adhesive.{ See another good idea just chatting} I only take showers . I used to sit in the tub a long time but now with the bag it is easier for me to take it off ,shower and then replace it. It lasts a shower or two or 6 days if i am lucky.I don't have an office job so i can skip a day or so with out a shower if i want to.Longer if i am going to the relatives so they don't mind if i leave early.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:06 pm
I feel the same on the shower thingy! One shower and I am lucky to get another day out of the tape. I use the Convex 2 piece system with the skin powder and seal wipes before putting on the base. Oh and I also use the ekien seal..keep everything dry as I go along. Yet the shower ruins it everytime!!! UgH! Question I have is I am 5 months out of surgery and have just put back on some weight. Could that change the use of the extra seal I needed back then because I weighed 15lbs less?
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