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Posted by windycottage, on Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:47 pm
Trying difrentent bags one and two piece what works better what is the majority people use. Why doese it work for you some say the two piece sticks out to much. IF YOUR GOING READ IT PLEASE GIVE YOUR OPINION.
Reply by annie_nu2, on Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:30 pm
I use the two piece. I never tried the one piece because it looks too bulky. I am petite and don't want to have to deal with any more bulk than I have too. Good luck!!
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Reply by Past Member, on Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:14 pm
i prefer the 2 piece system also. however YOU must find out which system works best for YOU!! my suggestion is google coloplast and convatech, hollister and any others you can think of. call their customer service dept and talk to someone about trying different systems till you get what works best. they will be happy to send you a few samples of each product.
be sure to request a few sample eakin rings {might be their brand} these are a great product that extends your wear time and provides extra security against leaks. good luck
Reply by junopete, on Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:36 am
For me, my biggest challenge at first was getting anything that would seal for more than 2 hours.  I called both Hollister and Convatec several times and talked with there ostomy nurses. Both companies sent me two each of about every thing they had.
After much trial and error I found the Convatec products worked the best for me. The Eakin seal was a life saver.  I tried all kinds of one piece and two piece arrangments.
For me I liked the two piece finally settling on the bigger drainable pouch.  This pouch worked well at night, not for waste, because I would not eat before going to bed. The problem was gas the bigger bag worked better.  I found the filters not to work well after a few hours, I would change out just the filter, still had problems.  I ended up using the Osto Vent which is a manuel vent I would locate at the top of the bag.

One more thing that made a big difference for me. Using the two piece system meant I could place the wafer exactly where it had to go, because I could see the stoma when placing the wafer.  Then I would just clip the bag on.  I did use the Hollister belt. The Convatec bags had little ears on them so a person could use a generic belt.

When you get it right. By that I mean the correct site preperation, the right adhesive for your skin and the wafer has to be off the right material for your intestinal enzimes, the  hole the right size for your stoma you will have few to no blow outs or leaks and you will not get the burning or irritation around the stoma. It took me months of trying different things out.

I didn't really notice much difference in one sytem showing thru more than another.
My stoma was right at my belt line, I had to wear my pants at the waist somewhat loose, for me it made no difference. I can see for a lady it could make a difference.

Good luck.

Reply by junopete, on Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:45 am
Something I foregot to mention.  I would change out the system every 3 days.  I found that by doing this I avoided a lot of problems.  I have no doubt that in most cases I could have gone 4 to 6 days.  But to me it was not worth the risk of a leek, so every 3 days.  The only time I would have problems is from sweating, my wear time would decrease. Also more for guys than the ladys is hair growth around the stoma. The natural hair growth will lesson the seal of the wafer.

Reply by WAB, on Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:34 am
I also prefer the 2 piece ( Hollister Convatec)  system as well as some have said the gas outlets do not work that well.............I only wish they made a smaller bag for the 2 piece system as I irrigate ( another process which incredibly sets you  HIHIHIIIIII)

and well this was a life saver and the only problem I have is gas sometimes....of course depending on what I eat.......... I also find the glue strips made by Coloplast great as they hold the flange in place more securely and well are not a messy cleaning process as with the glue in a tube......I also use a skin prep...which dries the skin and removes unwanted glue from the flange........I have never had a rash or problem with heat  .....( spend time in Mexico and well had no problems)    

Also those who do not swim may not I found the flange glues tighter in the water...maybe it is the brand I am using..who knows.....( Hollister)

I wish the companies would make a cap and small flange for those intimate moments.......for those of us who well would be like just having a funny  band aid I wear a cumberbund hide bag and flange.......what man does not look sexy in a cumberbund ..LOL  hihihihiiih
Reply by isabella, on Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:00 pm
i have tried both types a 1 piece and 2 piece and prefer the 2 piece.i use coloplast and find that this system for me is great the pouches are drainable so you have the option of draining or putting a new pouch on with ease,i feel much fresher with this as i can wash the flange and stoma, the flange can easily last for 5/6 days ,when changing this i use a lavendar moisturiser and skin barrier and have had no problems with my skin.its mostly a case of trial and error and you have to find one that suits your lifestyle and as someone else suggested the companies customer services will gladly send you sample's to try,hope this helps !
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Reply by Past Member, on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:15 pm
I'm a one-piece Hollister person, the smaller the pouch the better.  Don't have many problems, thank goodness.  A two-piece always seemed to show a bit or have a little bulk.  The small one piece Hollister I wear isn't noticeable ....and can't really feel it much either.  I have to change appliance every two days.
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Reply by Past Member, on Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:41 am
Hollister 2 piece system for me, even the convex ones are very unobtrusive and lay flat.  Advantage of the 2 piece is you don't need to change the base as often (can sometimes last up to a week) and can check on the stoma every day with the bag change, and you can use different size bags for whatever situation.  But I guess it's all just personal preference.  All the companies are quite happy to send you free samples for whatever you need.
Reply by vulcanBMk2, on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:52 am
I'm a Urostomate.. One piece Welland for me & use a Colorplast night bag.I change my Welland every 48 hours & my night bag I use for 6-7 days.
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Reply by Past Member, on Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:47 pm
I use the two piece Holister Mini pouch, having a colostomy and knowing my bowl movements lets me remove the bag and go directly into the bowl, not always but at least when I am home. Some comfort knowing that I am not a slave to the bag. Not to get of the subject, but has anyone heard of these disposable liners, I read it on someones post and emailed them but they never responded.

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Reply by Past Member, on Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:00 pm   here ya go... they will send you a sample. i tried them and they work well, but since i started irrigation i no longer require them
Reply by Faith4Today, on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:18 pm
I have a colostomy but my nurse and doctor didn't want me to irrigate.  Worried about strictures or blockages, but I don't have a disease that caused this, just a sever constipation and a colon that doesn't move things alone.  There are great little caps or decorated covers for those intimate moments.  As for bags I really like the 2 piece and being able to keep an eye on my stoma.  I did have a leak problem that was solved by an eakin cohesive seal (ring), but the only flange that would really stick was ConvaTec Sur-fit Natura Durahesive moldable.  I have showered and swam twice and after it dries it seems to have an even tighter fit. The moldable flange also gives you a perfect fit for any stoma size it gets kind of goowie  (is that a word?)  which also helps the seal.  I am a newbie but I have a great nurse who has tried every fit out there until we found something that worked.  Also I use the sm closed disposable bag because I hate seeing and handling the poo still.  Hope this helps.
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Reply by Past Member, on Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm
Sounds like maybe I should try more two piece appliances to save changing every two days.  Love hearing what everyone has to say. Smile
Reply by Redneck Cowgirl, on Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:55 pm
You mentioned about irrigate. Do you have a Illestomy or Colostomy and what is to irrigate. I have only had my Illestomy since July 2009 and there is a lot to learn to make things better with this. You mentioned using a strip in stead of the paste. I was wonder what difference you it makes.  I use Hollister two piece with paste on the flange and usually can go a week with it but if the something else would be more secure for that week I would like to know about it.
Please let me know.

Redneck Cowgirl
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