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Posted by itchy22, on Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:59 am
I live in a place where I can obtain Medical Marijuana. I find it helps with anxiety, pain and occasional insomnia. Before you put it down its FAR better than alcohol especially if you are taking other meds. Any thoughts?
Reply by SORCHIA, on Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:33 am
I KNOW, it is highly controversial. People are so grossly prejudice against a seemingly harmless alternative medicine that I for one am reluctant to admit to using it in most circles. However as you said IT HELPS ALOT!!! I was getting really sick, well sicker that is, taking all those pills that the doctors had me on in and out of the hospital. I believed I was going to die if I didn't stop taking them. So I did. Now mind you I was not smoking pot at the time I spent two months in and out of hospitals, doing chemo etc. I was only using our western medicines approach to treatment as prescribed by my physicians. They almost killed me. Repeatedly. I finally got to go home and started reading all the precautionary literature that comes with all our pharmaceuticals that they send you home from the hospital with and "Holy Smokes" I wasn't supposed to even be taking certain pills with other ones they were giving me and the side effects and damage to my body that were caused by taking the pills in the first place were not worth the risk. So long story short I only use medical pot that I grow myself. I know what I put on it which is nothing. I know what it gets fed, which is the goat manure I plant it in. No it does not get very big by most peoples standards but I am looking for a quality medicine not tons of pot. It works!! I threw away the pills for nausea, bowl function, headaches, stomach aches, sleeplessness, nervous tremors(caused by some of the meds), pain pills I kept just in case but I last renewed a prescription for them in 2010. I substitute medical pot for everything and I am still here much to the amazement of the medical staff that took care of me in the hospital. They expected me to die. I would be dead if not for the grace of God, and Gods most perfect medicine, Pot. I worked at our local hospital in the 80's. What I saw there shook me up so badly that I went to beauty school and became a hairdresser which is a long way from the radiology dept. I lost my faith in western medicine back then and my recent acquaintance with it reaffirmed what I learned back then. Fool me twice, right? Anyway sorry for the rant, but in all honesty I believe if you eat the crystals that fall off the dry buds (either by just taking a spoonful, or sprinkling it on a salad or some other food) it will help you the most. I have been reading up on hemp oil and other processed products but I believe the healthiest product that helps you from medical cannabis is simply the natural crystals that fall off when tapped against a screen. The government however will consider you a drug lord as they call the crystals "hash" and still consider hash a felony, along with pot itself but evidently having just the crystals is worse, it makes no sense, the States say it is OK for you to use medical pot but  not the part that contains the most medicine. Really strange. Anyway good luck in your journey in health and life. God bless and know that you are not alone in your choice of meds. Far ..far from it. We just rarely post on forums about it because Big Brother does monitor all our communications and always has.
Reply by Bill, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:03 am
Hello itchy22.  I've never taken this sort of stuff myself but certainly would not rule it out.
The medical drug-pushers would have us believe that the bad effects of their drugs are 'side-effects'. If one looks at the results of their own drug trials it becomes clear that these negative things are the 'effects' of their drugs.  Drug-pushing is a big money-spinner in the medical profession and cash is so often the motivation behind getting us to 'buy-into' things, so 'buyers beware'.
Apart from that little rant ,I did do a single verse some years ago as a response to so-called 'therapies' which included synthetic drugs in the medical services.

HAPPY DAYS.

When I retire I’ll not need
therapists on which to feed.
For up my walls grows my own weed  
and in my garden poppy seed.

                                B. Withers 1989

Best wishes  Bill
Reply by WOUNDED DOE, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:48 am
Well......interesting topic and great posts!  Though I do not use the herb, if it legalizes in my area I will, at this point in time in my life, consider that option of experimental medicinal value for my own chronic illness, severe pains, rare type of insomnia/sleep disorder, and other medical issues.  It would be far safer than what Doctors have fed into me over the years, and that is a researched actual fact.  

Like anything, there is 'Use' and 'Abuse' .........but I believe in many cases, the benefits of this natural Earth Giving Herb has been underestimated, unappreciated and unfairly judged into a tangle of hype by Society in General for many years....

We shall see what happens.

In the meantime, stay happy, healthy and well everyone xoxoo
Reply by itchy22, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:44 pm
The world should take a tip from California, Oregon and BC. Thats the entire west coast of N. America...almost. Here, we have many ways of ingestion. All the smokables of course,but for those who cannot inhale or simply dont want to,there are sublingual sprays, edibles, i.e. cookies, brownies, drinks, all kinds of stuff. THC...the only medicine that is safe AND fun to take.
Reply by MissMeganM, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:04 pm
Good Lord, I'm surprised ALL people with IBD don't smoke pot, lol.  If you aren't into smoking it........well......you see all the ways to ingest it that don't involve smoking, lol.  When my Crohn's disease was really, really bad - smoking pot was the only way I could drum up enough of an appetite to eat.  And at that point, I weighed less than 100 pounds and I'm 5'7".  I was so skinny it was ghastly.  If it wasn't for marijuana, I wouldn't have eaten at all and probably would have wasted away completely, lol
Reply by WOUNDED DOE, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:59 pm
                                 
MissMeganM wrote:
Good Lord, I'm surprised ALL people with IBD don't smoke pot, lol.  If you aren't into smoking it........well......you see all the ways to ingest it that don't involve smoking, lol.  When my Crohn's disease was really, really bad - smoking pot was the only way I could drum up enough of an appetite to eat.  And at that point, I weighed less than 100 pounds and I'm 5'7".  I was so skinny it was ghastly.  If it wasn't for marijuana, I wouldn't have eaten at all and probably would have wasted away completely, lol




I hear yah girl,...my Crohn's had wasted me nearly to nothing in the past as well :/ and a person becomes desperate to survive such a battle.......

I am attempting to analyze this a bit with a more open mind than I have in the past,.......hell, if I agreed to years of the dangerous and controversial Remicade that caused so much damage in my body,...I should be able to get myself to examine a careful test of a natural method more closely.

If more Doctors are allowed to prescribe it to their patients in test trials at very least, to document it's value, this could be very interesting, maybe at that time I will step on board.  
Wow, what an experiment THAT would be, lol, .....someone film me and Youtube it for your enjoyment, LOL.  I can almost hear my doctors laughing if they were to read my post in here, .... because I am little miss 'Health Nut', I'm not big on alcohol (quite seldom actually) , I don't smoke, I don't use illegal drugs, I eat as organic as possible and preach strongly against pesticide use in gardens, all big into healthy lifestyle and keeping fit......... I think my friends and doctors would be tossing big money on the betting table that they'd never get me to use weed for some of my problems, lol ..........but ...........  I'm tired, I'm old, ...and us Crohnie's know full well how awful our struggle can be and our will to stay alive, ....if it does that much to assist in nausea, anxiety, promote eating, among other things I know are true, then perhaps I shouldn't second-guess it so much pertaining to my own life ........I have clearly seen how helpful it's been for patients, improved their health and quality of life and eased the psychological terrors of their treatments and extreme pains, alleviating some things that other Therapies could not make a difference.....

......but as with all things, there must be a careful balance regarding usage.

If it becomes legal, and my situation worsens, I just might step out of my strict box of thinking and give it a go .............................

........................................ or not..................................LOL

Let's put it this way,........it would shock the Hell outa people if I did, lol, ...including myself.

But then, I surprise myself sometimes.

In the meantime...........(holds up her icy glass of lemonade) ... Cheers! Wink

~Doe
Reply by itchy22, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:33 pm
Just a thought about legalization. Up here in Canuckland we had a party leader who was destined to be the Prime Minister. Just before the last Fed. election, he died of cancer. He was determined to legalize,or at the very least decriminalize pot. So, at the election the Creepy Conservatives won because there was vertually no opposition. We now have a Prime Minister who acts like a dictator BC is our only province that allows "Medical Marijuana" Thank goodness............ironicly right across the street from the dispensary is a police station.
Reply by WOUNDED DOE, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:53 pm
                                 
itchy22 wrote:
Just a thought about legalization. Up here in Canuckland we had a party leader who was destined to be the Prime Minister. Just before the last Fed. election, he died of cancer. He was determined to legalize,or at the very least decriminalize pot. So, at the election the Creepy Conservatives won because there was vertually no opposition. We now have a Prime Minister who acts like a dictator BC is our only province that allows "Medical Marijuana" Thank goodness............ironicly right across the street from the dispensary is a police station.



Decriminalizing the herb might be a good thing, but I do think some sort of 'control' should be enforced, as with anything...... and another point you hit on in your first post, is the fact that it's safer, from what I understand thus far, than alcohol and for those who enjoy their alcoholic beverages but also are on meds, the two normally do not mix........however the herb, in some cases, might be safer in certain situations.  

I never advocate things that are illegal and I will never encourage anyone to act on any illegal activity or anything that might question or compromise their health in any aspect, in fact, I'm well known to promote quite the opposite...........and we must also keep in mind that everyone's situation is different in countless ways, ........ this is why I most sincerely remind all of you to be careful........but this topic does have very interesting depth and curiosities.

The following link to youtube is an example of what we are discussing.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R38zCtYO7k
Reply by sfgiantsfan, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:42 pm
You could always move to Washington State or Colorado where it is legal. I think this December is when WA State will be starting to sell it to the public. Right now there is no legal location to buy it unless you have a medical marijuana card. I don't know anything about how it all works in Colorado.
Reply by itchy22, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:53 pm
If I may state without regress...We smoke some more and all *** less
Reply by itchy22, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:58 pm
I just got bleeped for using a word that means a female dog. GIVE ME A BREAK
Reply by Primeboy, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:39 pm
Last year we visited Amsterdam and found ourselves in one of  Amsterdam's quaint "coffee shops"not unlike those typically found here in gentrified neighborhoods. Instead  of coffee, however, there were shelves filled with a variety of exotically named cannabis. Customers appeared to discuss the scent and curing of pot much like they would inquire about the aroma and bouquet of wines elsewhere. All of this activity seemed so natural and commonplace there. But over here, the police would charge in like Gangbusters. Why?
Why are alcohol, tobacco and firearms easily accessible but pot outlawed? I think it's ultimately a matter of revenue. Once it is legalized, people would grow their own recreational or medicinal pot safely, right in the back yard next to the tomato plants and zucchini.  Regulation for taxation would become impossible. People might even cut down their purchase of nicotine and liquor which brings in hundreds of billions in state and federal revenue annually.
Underneath many policies is economics. Remember the expression: "Follow the money." Too bad fiscal considerations trump personal freedom in this case. That's my opinion. And, in case you are wondering, I puffed but did not inhale....
   PB
Reply by WOUNDED DOE, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:08 pm
Good post PB ........full of truth for sure.........
Reply by ledzep47, on Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:12 pm
Lol...Weed is great for everything that ails people on this site...
My doctors at Princess margaret say the weed saved my life...
Helped kill the tumour...

You should all watch this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShnVEmdS2o

Watch with your buds...lol
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