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STOMA VS DIET

Posted by letsrock, on Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:34 pm

Just trying to understand how all this works, so if you eat a meal, how long does it take to reach the stoma? So if you eat a breakfast, is that what you see or are you seeing a previous meal waiting to leave? Been trying to figure out a diet that works consistantly , ...............one day it works great...the next not so good....colostomy for 2 months now

Reply by veejay, on Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:55 am

Only one word for you letsrock.....IRRIGATION.

 

Look into it. You won't look back.

 

VJ.

Reply by letsrock, on Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:48 pm

yea, I have been thinking about that, but from what I have understood you still have to wear a skin barrier, and some still wear a pouch......if I have to do all of that I may as well keep doing the same as I do now

Reply by Mrs.A, on Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:08 pm

Hi letsrock and welcome to the forum,

In the 1980s, Mayo Clinic researchers measured digestion time in 21 healthy people. Total transit time, from eating to elimination in stool, averaged 53 hours (although that figure is a little overstated, because the markers used by the researchers passed more slowly through the stomach than actual food). The average transit time through just the large intestine (colon) was 40 hours, with significant difference between men and women: 33 hours for men, 47 hours for women.

This is a link to the article, http://www.mayoclinic.org/digestive-system/expert-answers/faq-20058340

Reply by peterepete, on Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:59 pm

Totally agree with Veejay. Been living with Colostomy bag for 2 months now, post-op june 2015.

Started Irrigating 5 days ago, at 500ml, which I've found will get me thru 24 hours without the need for a bag, I'm just using a Stoma Cap.  

Hoping to eventually extend that to 48 or maybe 72 hours.

Irrigation equals Freedom. 

Reply by letsrock, on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:31 am
Mrs.A wrote:

Thanks for the reply Mrs. A......very interesting......just trying to find a diet that would thicken the output

 

Hi letsrock and welcome to the forum,

In the 1980s, Mayo Clinic researchers measured digestion time in 21 healthy people. Total transit time, from eating to elimination in stool, averaged 53 hours (although that figure is a little overstated, because the markers used by the researchers passed more slowly through the stomach than actual food). The average transit time through just the large intestine (colon) was 40 hours, with significant difference between men and women: 33 hours for men, 47 hours for women.

This is a link to the article, http://www.mayoclinic.org/digestive-system/expert-answers/faq-20058340



Reply by letsrock, on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:33 am
peterepete wrote:

Is it a one piece or do you use a skin barrier?

 

Totally agree with Veejay. Been living with Colostomy bag for 2 months now, post-op june 2015.

Started Irrigating 5 days ago, at 500ml, which I've found will get me thru 24 hours without the need for a bag, I'm just using a Stoma Cap.  

Hoping to eventually extend that to 48 or maybe 72 hours.

Irrigation equals Freedom. 



Reply by moonshine, on Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:42 pm

not sure if my ileostomy is the same GI involvement as a colostomy - but I have Scleroderma since 2005, ileostomy bag since 2010.....we as humans have about 20 feet of small bowel (intestine) and 5 feet of colon (large bowel) and for sure it takes time for the small bowel to absorb nutrients from food......i have heard people say 'that meal came right out of me'......its actually the previous few meals that is being expelled......if you ever had kids, think about how when a baby drinks a bottle.......it stimulates digestion and as they might be drinking a bottle, a parent will feel a diaper bubbling out the last meal......................

Reply by postygal61, on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:12 am

I was  having a lot of problems, nothing would stay in me and i was very dehydrated, Doc put me on codeine pills, never felt better...

Reply by letsrock, on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:49 am
moonshine wrote:

Thanks for the reply, Im trying to figure out which foods thicken the output.........if I could get a constant it sure would make my life alittle eariler.....

 

not sure if my ileostomy is the same GI involvement as a colostomy - but I have Scleroderma since 2005, ileostomy bag since 2010.....we as humans have about 20 feet of small bowel (intestine) and 5 feet of colon (large bowel) and for sure it takes time for the small bowel to absorb nutrients from food......i have heard people say 'that meal came right out of me'......its actually the previous few meals that is being expelled......if you ever had kids, think about how when a baby drinks a bottle.......it stimulates digestion and as they might be drinking a bottle, a parent will feel a diaper bubbling out the last meal......................



Reply by annofsd, on Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:50 am

I've had a colostomy for several years now. The first year no matter what I tried the food kept rushing through and pouring out of my stoma. Finally a friend suggested taking loperamide, which is the diarrhea pill Imodium. After trying different amounts I found that one pill with breakfast and one with supper did the trick. However, lately I have had to add a pill at lunchtime. It is a great relief to be able to enjoy a meal without worrying about it rushing out through my stoma, and of course I am now getting the nutrition I was not getting when it passed through so quickly. I buy the loperamide on Amazon, where it is quite cheap.

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Reply by Past Member, on Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:17 am

Best way to find out is to eat sweetcorn or green peas!  When you see them come out, you know how long they took to travel Smile

I am sure irrigation is a wonderful thing but might I just say that not everyone is suitable for this method.  I for one.  Please don't rub it in, we do our best with what we have.

Francine x

 

Reply by blueonthetyne, on Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:33 am

i like that fledgeling, it is a fact, its a frequently asked question that i get from the non understanding masses, i look at it a way of think of a full to the rim  glass of water on a flat surface,put 1 drip in and 1 drip will come out but it may not be the same drip, i think we are much more healthy cause we never have any more waste in us than we need, i know its a bit weird but what do you think about the mushrooms when they come through ha ha

ps

i love the borders and you have a lovely new railway you lucky things

Reply by ZaliBee, on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:30 pm

I have an ileostomy and have to have regular endoscopy's.  I've timed it since I don't do the prep.  Exactly 12 hours after a meal, I'll see it again. 

If I want to thricken up my output, peanut butter does the job wonderfully.   I love peanut butter sandwiches but it pancakes something awful.

 

Zalibee the Bumblebee!

Reply by sunkissed2348, on Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:18 pm

Bananas, oatmeal non-sweetened, mashed potatoes or white rice helps too. 

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