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Who would choose to bring a kid into this world ?

Posted by soulscope, on Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:27 am

Who would choose to bring a kid into this world ?

Reply by NJ Bain, on Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:58 pm

  That's a loaded question.  I hope my answers are entertaining at least.

  The idea of bringing a child into the world as it is, has many pro's and con's.  Technology certainly makes many things much easier than they were, say 50 or more years ago.  Everything like diapers, baby monitors, medical care, child car seats, etc, etc.  But at the same time, cell phones, tablets, online gaming and social media are turning our children into illiterate, real life (offline) unsocial idiots.  Not all of them, but a lot of them.

  Our children are generation NOW.  They are constantly bombarded by media telling them how to look or feel, instant bullying by social media when it used to be limited to the school yard, access to pornography even though they are too young to comprehend or understand what they are seeing.  They get instant gratification from Facebook posts, tweets, snapchat and skype and if they don't get that instant gratification, they have the attention span of a gnat.

  Each generation will have this same debate, speaking of "When I was your age, I had to walk to school, uphill, both ways in 2 feet of snow!  I didn't have a fancy cellphone or car to take me and I had pack my own lunch!  We didn't have Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts or food stores open 24/7!  If you didn't eat what was on your plate, you went hungry!"

  Most children of this generation will not have to work hard to do anything, or have to hunt and gather food with their parents.  Food is in abundance more than it has ever been.

  It comes down to how the parent/s are raising them.  Parents are not raising their children with the same values most of us were raised with.  Children today are taught that if a parent punishes their children with a belt for doing something wrong, that it's abuse and child services should get involved.  That little league football doesn't keep score anymore because they want every kid to feel like he/she is a winner.  Children are not learning consequenses, responsibility or how to be competitive; to strive to do better in life.

  We have more younger, single parents than ever bringing children into this world that don't know how to raise a child.  We have parents having children just to milk the system for free money and benifits so they don't have to contribute to society because they feel entitled.  "Someone has to pay for my kids to eat, it might as well be Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Taxpayer."  and then have the audacity to think it's owed to them and free!

  And then, there are some parents, not many, who raise their children to be responsible.  To be a better person and treat others with compassion and kindness.  That dicipline them properly and then explain to the child why they have to be diciplined.  To make the child appreciate and understand things in life that so many others take for granted.  Parents that actually love their children.

  Long winded, I know but I could go on and on.  I would like to bring a child into this world with all of it's pro's and con's.  I would like to think I have the mettle to such a challenge to raise a child of intelligence and integrity.  But who knows?  I may be talking out of my arse again.

  To be continued...


Reply by mild_mannered_super_hero, on Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:24 pm

well said bain.....bravo


Reply by NJ Bain, on Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:15 pm

Thanks Hero.  There is so much more to say on this subject and cannot possibly be answered in one post.  I could honestly have a debate on the subject.

Reply by soulscope, on Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:03 pm

Thanks for your detailed feelings

Reply by Bill, on Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:55 am

Well said Bain - I could not have put it better myself. As you say, there is a whole lot more to the debate and I hope some more people join in with their views.

Best wishes


Reply by soulscope, on Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:03 am


Reply by NJ Bain, on Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:57 pm



  I'm curious as to why you asked the question?



Reply by soulscope, on Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:15 am


Reply by iMacG5, on Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:38 pm

I think Bain did a great job answering your question Soulscope.  You answered "Demographic" to his question "Why?"  Now I'm really curious.



Reply by soulscope, on Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:33 am

You are "Already" treating this as an "Argument" . . . ? ! ?

Reply by NJ Bain, on Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:56 am


  I don't think Mike is trying to treat this as an argument, more of an inquiry.  Maybe you witnessed some sort of child abuse or an add on TV about children in third world countries that are in need of assistance.  Or maybe you have or are planning to have children of your own.

  I'm not going to assume anything.  But we are all friends here and I'm sure no one wants to treat the question as an argument.  You don't have to answer anything if you don't want to but I'm sure you already know that.  Just my 2 cents.


Reply by DonBrown1943, on Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:56 am

When my wife and I married (53 years ago), she was 18 and I was 19. We debated about children for 3 years before we started our family. We have 3 children,all adult,3 grandchildren, all adult, and 2 greatgrandchildren, both under 6 years old. The reasons we and our children chose to have families are complex. First, we wanted the fulfillment and joy that raising children usually gives to good parents. Second, we recognized that this is a bad world, but if good people don't bring children into this world, it can only get worse. As responsible adults, it became our responsibility, almost a duty, to become the best parents we could and to raise up our children to become the best people they could be. I believe Bill's post about today's children clearly shows that more couples should have followed our example.

Reply by Bill, on Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:02 am

Hello Don.

Congratulations on the concepts you put forward as your resons to have chldren. I would applaud to idea of thinking more about about the end product and how it fits with a world we would like to see rather than the one we have.

It is my belief that too many people have children simply because they like having sex and do not consider the potential consequences of their actions. Hence, many children enter the world as 'accidents', unwanted because the biological parents have not yet matured past the childlike, selfish stage.

I confess to being biased on such issues, having spent a working lifetime trying to compensate for parental inadequacies.

Note: I think your comment about 'my' post should have been addressed to Bain as I was only agreeing with him!!

Best wishes



Reply by soulscope, on Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:58 am

From what I've received from so many different mediums the world is very very wrong

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