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Help, constant leaks

Posted by Puppyluv56, on Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:24 am

Gemd,

I started using Coloplast two piece system at the beginning of the month. The first pouch I replaced after 11 days and the second I still have on. Being my 15 day. No leak in sight. I did use the suggestion someone(was that you mike) made here about the barrier rings, cutting in half(I cut in thirds) roll into a rope and wrapping around the outside of my stoma, then applying the flange. Seems to work really well. I will use a little more next time to make it thicker but otherwise, works well. I am not crazy about the click system on the Coloplast pouch. Cannot not burp as easily as the Convetec but love the pouch more!

Gemd, this would work well with those Convetec cut to fit as well! Probably get you at least a couple extra days from each!

how are they working for you?

Puppy 

Reply by iMacG5, on Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:05 pm

This might be just a little off topic but I eliminated the typical burping method by using KMEZVENT vents.  It's a little work to prep the pouches with these vents but way easier to burp.

Let's never stop looking to make our stuff better and easier.  I think we deserve it.

Mike

Reply by iMacG5, on Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:53 pm

Hey Puppyluv, the Eakin Cohesive Seal 2 is a lot thicker.

Mike

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:09 pm

Mike, 

Is thicker better? The two piece flange is already think and sticks out more than a one piece. I have tried a few different types of them and and found no benefit unit I tried the rolling into a rope and building it around the stone. The ring did not stick to my skin any better than the pouch barrier. Does your ring actually stick to your skin along the stone?

candy

Reply by iMacG5, on Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:45 pm

Hi Candy. I probably confused thicker with wider. When I flatten the rolled up barrier ring it’s only about the thickness of a double match book cover; like two covers, one on top of the other. It's actually about 5/64 of an inch (0.2 cm). The flattened seal is about a 3/8 inch wide. Close to 1/2 inch(around 1.3 cm). No, I don’t think thicker is better.
I tried the rope method a long time ago with little success. I think it’s failure was due to the “sweating” of the stoma. I know it’s not sweat but it’s always wet and could interfere with adhesion.
More good luck to all of us,
Mike

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:29 am

Thanks Mike, 

I am trying the barrier ring as a whole now! Will see how it works! Got 17 days from the last pouch with using the rope made from the ring. Probably could have gone longer but due to my own stupidity, of realeasing gas by uncliping the click pouch at the top, in the night, with no light, on the way to the bathroom, to find out it was not all air! Don’t laugh! Shit happens! Literally! LolHad to change at 3:00 in the am! That will teach me! I was just seeing how long it was possible to get out of one pouch! 

Puppyluv

Reply by iMacG5, on Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:17 pm

Hey Pup, most ostomates can't even imagine going 17 days between changes.  I'm nominating you for the poster child for THIS IS HOW IT'S DONE.  Great to know it's possible.  We read so often about folks changing daily and more.  You are an inspiration!

Thanks so much,

Mike

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:01 pm

Haha Mike! Thanks for the crown! Not worthy though! My own stupidity ended the run! Haha! Ya have to laugh at yourself sometimes! I have always gotten good time out of two piece pouches! The one piece, not so much ! I don’t ‘t use powders, glues,paste , rings ( just now trying them, not sure why) barrier wipes! All I do is use the adheasive remover wipes, dry and put on a flange after cutting to fit of course! Works for me! 

Thanks, 

Candy

Sjb
Reply by Sjb, on Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:03 pm

I had daily leaks as well until i switched to a two piece with a belt. I also use a cera ring tbat helps seal better. I have a huge hernia also. Tbat piece of elastic provides just enough support to keep my device from leaking!!  I made my own belt with a wide piece of elastic and larger hooks to attach to loops. 

Best of luck! 

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:57 pm

Ok I have to tell on myself because my actions led to an accident waiting to happen, me! I sent this to my friend and just had to copy to tell on myself! Well , I am hoping your Friday has gone better than mine!! I have to just keep in mind, it IS Friday!!!!
Drank my water like always. Start about an hour ahead of my appt! I was hungry and had not had any Honey Nut Cheerios in a long time! BIG mistake! Lol In my defense, I did also eat a banana! I was half way to treatment and those Cherrios started to come on back! That was fine so I immediately went to a back bathroom in the practice to empty my pouch and hopefully NOT Pee! Have to have a full bladder for Radiation. Had to pee soooo bad! Did not think I could make it thru treatment so emptied my bladder some. Just could not stop at a little bit! As I was on the table getting treatment, more cherrios came for a visit but since I had peed prior to treatment, I did not go back to finish emptying my bladder afterward thinking I could make it home. Well, all the way home, cherrios continue to visit to the max and having to pee again so bad! I could hardly make it in the door! Made it to the bathroom, almost! Lol Started peeing before I could get my pants all the way off but finally got there!
As I am taking my wet panties off, I notices those damn cherrios were not only inside the pouch but broke out of jail to surprise me! It was a surprise breakout but I had just got comfortable not using the barrier strip! May have to rethink that! Lol
Haha! What a surprise that was since it had not happened in over 8 months!
So moral of this story is DO NOT EAT Honey Nut Cherrios! EVER!!! Pee when you gotta!
Hope you are laughing at my expense! I would be laughing if it was you! Just who I am!
Have a better day than me! Lol

Reply by looking forward, on Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:48 am

that happens to me as well but i have also gone as long as 5 days.. use the barrier strips and econ 

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:10 pm

Looking forward!

I normally go 10 days minimum between pouch changes! That is without strips and barrier rings! Hahaha! This was just a BAD food choice! They would make you go the same prior to an Ostomy! 

Just a funny day! Whew, glad it was over! Lol

Puppyluv

Reply by spyder, on Thu May 09, 2019 5:25 pm

Tfestylery using active lifstyle adhesive covers helped me

Reply by spyder, on Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:06 pm

The active lifestyle covers are the best

Reply by Indigo55, on Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:51 am

I have an ileostomy and occasional nuisance leaks, and you made me think with your comment about not eating or drinking too much before bed. Never occured to me that lying down could be a problem.

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