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Posted by richichi, on Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:53 pm

i am fairly new here with my ileostomy but I find buying supplies to be a problem. The problem is the pricing of items isn’t readily posted like when you buy any other items and their seems to be collusion, price fixing, they are all charge the same amount. Do you all find this to be true or am I delusional. Where is the fair market on these items???

 

 
Reply by Puppyluv56, on Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:45 pm

Hi Rich, 

I never saw the pricing of supplies prior to ordering and was blown away at the cost on the invoice when I received my supplies! I was very lucky to have met my OOP last year when I ordered, and this year, I have Medicare that picks up the remainder of the cost my primary leaves! I have not compared the prices and even the catalogs do not have them. I imagine you can call the companies to ask and compare prices. I know a lot of folks buy supplies outright and can answer some of those questions better. It is all rediculous in cost! 

Puppyluv

 
Reply by Morning glory , on Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:24 pm

I think the prices are ridiculous. It is gouging in my opinion,but they have us over a barrel. When I first started using the pouches in 1987 ;a box of ten was about $10.00. I thought that was high but now I would be happy to have that price. You won’t find the prices in a catalog. You can call the supplier and get the prices,but the prices are very much the same.

 
Reply by mild_mannered_super_hero, on Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:29 pm

i buy my own supplies, dealing with insurance and especially government insurance is too much trouble. most supply companies will give you a cash discount, since then they dont have to go thru the bul$hit of dealing with medicare or some insurance company. i have found mega medical is by far the cheapest and their shipping is reasonable. i also buy some supplies on e-bay.  most of the stuff on e-bay is estate items so watch your "use by date". as an example my hollister 1796 cap is 60$ at mega medical, recently bought 4 boxes on ebay at 20$ each. the same item thru medicare is over 100$....so i wind up paying as much or more for my "part" depending on the deductible . 

 
Reply by NJ Bain, on Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:22 am

richichi,

  I go through edgepark.  The pricing isn't really finalized until checkout after they check insurance.  With my insurance, a box of 10 - 1 piece pouches goes for around $35.

 

Bain

 
Reply by withed, on Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:23 pm

I'm grateful I live in a country with good healthcare and insurance. The boxes I order of 1-part bags cost $297 for a box of 30 but I get them for free.

 
Reply by JMC, on Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:22 pm
withed wrote:

I'm grateful I live in a country with good healthcare and insurance. The boxes I order of 1-part bags cost $297 for a box of 30 but I get them for free.


Agree withed, same in Australia (and I think the UK). 

In Australia though you have to take into consideration the fact that we pay a shitload more taxes (particularly the workers amongst us) than anyone in the USA would ever do, so there is a price to pay in day-to-day living for socialised medical care.   Not that I'm complaining (I pay a yearly admin fee of $60-70 AU which covers all products). 

I have noticed on my association's newsletters recently that they state how much the products cost (can be in excess of $200 per month) and to be able to sustain the scheme in the long run Australian ostomates need to be mindful of how much they order - these schemes don't always last forever.

 
Reply by w30bob, on Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:53 pm

Hi Richici,

  Of course the prices for this stuff are ridiculous......they're "medical supplies".  That's code for "if us medical supply companies get together and agree on a nice high price the insurance companies will have to pay it".  If you can find an ostomy support group in your area they usually have boxes and boxes of donated things from members who change brands, etc and would like people to use them before they expire.  It's not a reliable way to get the exact supplies you need every month, but in a pinch it works well. 

 

  This might make you feel a little better......I take Humira as a preventative to keep my Crohn's from coming back.  I need to inject 2 pens per week because my body laughs at it and kicks it out pretty fast.  I never knew or saw the price of the Humira, but figured it must be expensive.  Abbvie let me join their discount club and I only paid $5 for a 12 week supply of Humira.  Struck me as kind of odd that they'd care about a whole $5 if the stuff was expensive, so I got thinking maybe since it's been out there on the market for a number of years that maybe it's actually pretty cheap.  So I'm going along paying my $5 every 3 months, happy as a pig in s*&t, and then a few months back I had a pen mis-fire and I had to call the specialty pharmacy to get a replacement pen.  When they sent it they mistakenly put the price of my 12 weeks supply on the receipt.  Hold on to your ostomy bag brother........$82,000.00!  I'll save you from cracking out the calculator.......it's a little over $3400 for ONE 40mg pen.  Even though my insurance covers it I called Abbvie and told them what a-holes they are to rip off the insurance companies like that.  But it's not just them.......every pharma company that sells medicine and medical supplies rapes the insurance companies.....who pass the cost onto their customers.  Quite a racket they got going.  Makes you sick just thinking about it.  I too use Ebay when I run low on something, but again, not reliable.  Wish I had a better answer for you......hopefully others may.

take care,

bob

 
Reply by Superme, on Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:46 pm

I agree the prices are way too high. I could use my insurance but I have a big deductible that makes it very undesirable to use. I buy my supplies on EBay. If I’m going to pay out of pocket I would rather get the least expensive option.

Mike

 
Reply by Vikingthor, on Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:36 pm

Come live in The UK,we have a free National Health Service,where EVERYTHING is absolutely Free! It doesn't cost me a single cent for any medicines or hospital procedures. 

 
Reply by minnie0329, on Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:20 pm

I was just discharged from visiting nurse, already hit my oop...looking for a good company to deal with...Liberty calls almost every day...makes me uncomfortable...and I've read bad reviews on Edgepark...I just noticed megamedical...Now..to answer a question...The catalogs don't have prices so that when the prices change, they don't have to print a whole new catalog.....If you do call for quotes, be sure to make a note of the "part #", price, date, and the representative's name...Great question...thanks!

 
Reply by Puppyluv56, on Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:46 am

I use Edgepark and have had no issues! Not all companies file to your insurance so be sure to ask that question. I have never received a new catalog since the first one over a year ago. There are no prices in there so they would not send a new one based on price. I have talked to the people at Liberty as well but I called them thinking they were a supplier and could send samples. They did call me a few times until I told them I was sticking with Edgepark and would notify them if I decided to change in the future. 

Puppyluv

 
Reply by Little Red, on Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:33 am

  I use Edgepark  and Liberty medical  I order some supplies from Edgepark  my Hollister bags and my Cavilon Skin Barrier  other things from Liberty.  Liberty does not carry Nu Hope Stoma Belts or Cavalon protective wipe,  I also use Shield for incontenent supplies   they are great and call me  to reorder every 3 months.  I have had a incontanant problem ever since my surgery 

 

 
Reply by dls, on Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:52 am

My distributor is Byram Medical. They're great but don't carry everything, even if it's on my script.  I try everything.  Never thought about eBay, but I have bought some great pouches from Amazon.  Made in China, FDA approved, I've had great luck with them, and one variety is my absolute favorite.  Amazon really plays games with their pricing-upping the price as products become popular.  Annoying.  Here in NYS, I've see brick and morter shops sell bags for as much as $60, for ten. I sometimes ask my rep the prices of things, they all run at about $50 per 10 bag box, OH you get free shipping if you buy more than $50. GEE.  Must try ebay, thanks for the tip.

I am blessed with excellent health coverage. I have no deductible and my ostomy supplies follow the same guidelines as Medicare, although I'm not on Medicare yet.  I order more than I need every month and bring extra to my ostomy group. Someone mentioned ostomy groups as a source for product. Mine is fantastic. Tables full of product, we bring shopping bags and 'shop' around the tables as we chat.  In the last year, I've prpbably got over $500. in 'free' product. As mentioned most of us walk in with supplies, so we give and get what we need.  Yearly, my group donates several 'tables' of supplies to ostomy charities. Good, my next meeting is getting 4 bottles of M9's. My rep keeps sending me two bottles at a time. I rarely use M9's.  My point, if you have generous insurance, order up to yout allotment, and donate the rest, or send to people on this site who need it.

 

 
Reply by HenryM, on Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:24 pm

High prices and price fixing and gouging by medical supply firms are par for the course.  We are a captive audience.  But so is just about everything else in life price fixed.  As an inveterate cheapskate, I bellyache about it all the time.  I find cursing to be more comforting than prayer.

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