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THANKS TO EVERYONE!!! for not going political

 
This is the best website for people with an Ostomy. So much understanding.

It is such a relief to be able To go to this website and not have to deal with the political stuff/junk. And the other side of seeing people just willing to help people!

THANKS

 

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Cplumber I like your post. There was a lot of negative stuff going on at one time. I just quit posting for awhile. I am glad it is not happening anymore. Best wishes and stay safe

 

I am grateful that everyone keeps their political opinions off of here as well! It is the only place I can go to not have to deal with the craziness! I just want to help people and get help when needed! 
thanks ,Pup


 

  I  agree completely. Thanks to all...mtnman 

 

I do agree with the sentiments expressed above and feel that there are many other forums where people interested in the type of governmental politics indulged in by 'politicians'  can air their views.

A site like this seems to be  primarily for helping people come to terms with problems relating to stoma issues. However, the dictionary definition of 'politics' is wider than simply governmental affairs and includes the concept "(3) Activities concerned with seeking power, status, dominance etc."

Over the years that I have been posting on here, there have been a number of times when individual contributers have felt 'bullied', hurt, dominated and subjugated  by other contributers. Although these activities are often viewed as the prerogative of governmental politicians, they are also behavioural activies and strategies  of other 'bullies'. 

People with physical and emotional differences are sometimes viewed as 'weaker' than those who are considered to be 'normal' and it is likely that 'bullies' will try to take advantage of this to indulge themselves in the process of bullying anyone who is deemed as having a 'weakness'. When and if this happens, I would reserve the right to express my thoughts and opinions on the subject, if only to support those who are potentially being 'bullied'. 

I would be motivated to do this  no matter what site I was on or what company I was keeping at the time. 

Hopefully this will not necessarily be viewed as a 'political' statement, in the sense of governmental politics, but as a statement of support for anyone who finds themselves as a 'victim' of any of the many types of bullying.

Anyway, most of my own support comes in the form of rhyme and, in the governmental political arena, that doesn't seem to count as 'proper' politics. 

Best wishes

Bill

 

Hi Bill.  I think your explanation of how your writings might at times be politically influenced is excellent.  Many of my ostomy related experiences were influenced by politics.  The cost of medications and services and the interpretation of insurance coverage are a result of political decisions.  I guess I'm guilty of slipping beyond the MAO intended boundaries and I apologise if I offended.  So much of why we are where we are, as beneficiaries or victims, is the result of the laws we're bound by but I'll try to avoid offering political comments here.

Thanks for your offering Bill.

Mike

 
iMacG5 wrote:

Hi Bill.  I think your explanation of how your writings might at times be politically influenced is excellent.  Many of my ostomy related experiences were influenced by politics.  The cost of medications and services and the interpretation of insurance coverage are a result of political decisions.  I guess I'm guilty of slipping beyond the MAO intended boundaries and I apologise if I offended.  So much of why we are where we are, as beneficiaries or victims, is the result of the laws we're bound by but I'll try to avoid offering political comments here.

Thanks for your offering Bill.

Mike

Hello MIke. Thank you for the compliment about my explanation. 

I am not sure whether there are any 'boundaries' in terms of contributions to MAO. There have been many contributions regarding things like Medicare and lack of support from some societal systems and these comments have not , thus far, been disparaged as 'political' statements, but have mostly been viewed as simply a matter of fact.

When I mention that my supplies come via the NHS, free at the point of delivery. I rarely also mention that it is paid for from a system of taxation that was agreed by the majority of the population and enacted into law by a then  labour government, who believed that we should care for and about those who are less fortunate.

Living in a society means that we are 'governed' by the laws that the most powerful in society deem necesary. My take on  this is, that collectively, we probably get the people in charge that we (collectively) deserve. If we choose to have people in charge who are primarily out to serve themselves, then that is what they will do. It should not come as a surprise.

My rhymes (in this regard) are only to highlight when these people weaponise the various aspects of government to 'bully' people whom they percieve as 'weak' or 'weaker' than them. People with disablilities, fall into this bracket and therefore deserve to be heard from their perspectives. I have a long history of writing rhymes on their behalf including one from long ago entitled 'If I were the king'. This was not viewed as a political statement calling for  overt revolution, but simply an exposition of what laws were then in place to discriminate against disabled people. These were laws I believed should and could be reformed to benefit those who had, up to that point been used to disable disabled people even further. 

Everything we do in modern societies may be viewed as 'political', because we are governed by laws made by politicians. I have no objections to that in principle, but in practice I reserve the right to speak up about  the consequences of some of the laws they pass.

NB: I have never belonged to any polical party because, in many ways, they all seem to have similar characteristics which I abhor. I percieve them as a manifestation of the human condition, which over the years has come to mean selfishness, greed and inconsiderateness, to the extent that it is now well on the way to destroying the very things that are needed for human existence. 

Having said that, there are many humans who also recognise what is going on, but are motivated by kindness, caring and considerateness. Unfortunately, these people are likely to be overwhelmed by those who would dominate and subjugate them. Thus, I think that I will continue to have plenty of material for my rhymes on 'bullying' for many years to come. 

Best wishes

Bill

 

Thanks, Bill, for sharing these profound thoughts.  Perhaps this is not the most appropriate forum to criticize the system(s) but remaining silent to the "bullying" translates to accepting if not actually condoning it.

Stay safe and stay well,

Mike

 

I don't know about others but what bothered me was some just continually making derogatory statements about the candiates. If it is about the one someone likes and they respond it can turn into an  argument.There is so much on TV about each candiate I just did not want to see here. JMO

 
lovely wrote:

I don't know about others but what bothered me was some just continually making derogatory statements about the candiates. If it is about the one someone likes and they respond it can turn into an  argument.There is so much on TV about each candiate I just did not want to see here. JMO

I am with you Lovely. I do not come here to listen to anyone's political views. I get enough of that when I turn on a TV or Radio. Was hoping people would respect the political comment free site! 

Pup


 
Puppyluv56 wrote:

I am with you Lovely. I do not come here to listen to anyone's political views. I get enough of that when I turn on a TV or Radio. Was hoping people would respect the political comment free site! 

Pup


  I agree with you guys.   ..mountain. 

 

Just go out and vote.

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