New to all this, question on how long I can leave it on

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BobbiesZoo
Feb 11, 2024 4:36 am

At the two-month mark with my colostomy and still have questions.

They told me to change the whole thing every four days... is that standard?

I have had issues with the waxy ring; sometimes stuff leaks through. So, when it's working right, I get leery of messing it up again.

Having a hard time adjusting to all of this, but it should be reversed in four months. That is the only thing keeping me from losing it.

I have been having serious health issues for about a year, still undiagnosed. Then in December, I ended up with diverticulitis and the ostomy. Then a major spleen infection. Somewhere along the line, I seriously pissed off Karma. :)

warrior
Feb 11, 2024 5:06 am

Welcome Bobbie.

Understood about karma.

I don't think it's that.

Do you have any family history of this or family medical complications?

You can lean on us.

I have an ileo. I do not change it in 4 days. Nope. When it leaks, I change it.

What appliance do you have? A one-piece or two-piece? Drainable? Are you wearing a mounting plate belt?

Over time, you will know the max wear time. Trial and error to change it.

Other "colostomies," rather osties, will chime in with better advice.

 

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Axl
Feb 11, 2024 5:27 am

Hello Bob

Change it when you have to/want to. It's as simple as that.

Bill
Feb 11, 2024 8:46 am

Hello BobbiesZoo.

I agree with Axl on this one. My situation is a little different inasmuch as I make my own baseplates, so my bags last for months. However, the principle remains the same in that I only change them when necessary.

Best wishes

Bill  

aTraveler
Feb 11, 2024 10:01 am

It is not bad advice given you are at the 2-month mark and still not sure of your management of the stoma. There are a number of factors that may affect how long you may keep it on. For example, ConvaTec recommends that you remove their ease strip flange extenders after 72 hours. Similarly, Eakin seals will start to weaken after a certain amount of time. Pancaking can also shorten the length of time you can keep the wafer on. Your anatomy and where the wafer is located also affect how long you can keep it on. If you were advised at the hospital to replace it after 4 days, I would stick with their advice until you understand stoma management better. To enhance your chances of a reversal requires you to take very good care of your stoma. Incidentally, I have a colostomy and change my wafer every 4 days.

 
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SeanB
Feb 11, 2024 1:40 pm

As others have said, it really depends on you. I use a 2-piece Hollister system for my colostomy, and I can typically get about 3-5 days between flange changes. So, 4 days seems about right. That said, I change mine when it is showing signs that it is going to leak and not so much based on time. I have been able to get 7 days between changes a few times. Good luck.

Riva
Feb 11, 2024 2:23 pm

Welcome. Education is key on this new journey of yours. I suggest you check out UOAA, United Ostomy Association of America. It's our national organization. Also, Ostomy101.com. You will learn about foods, blockages, skin care, clothing, ostomy products, travel, activities, and a whole host of other tricks of the trade. You might also want to check out a local support group near you. Just remember you are not alone on this new journey of yours. Wearing a pouch does not define who you are. There are solutions. We're here for you. Best of luck.

 



Beachboy
Feb 11, 2024 5:38 pm

I have a colostomy. Use a 2-piece Hollister system. Change the wafer every 7 days. I have stretched it to 9 days when I'm lazy. No skin problems doing that. Change bags when they get really soiled. I discovered I can go 7 days with the same bag. I use a barrier ring. Washing out a bag with water will extend its use.

It's good to know how long. Insurance or Medicare could change their policy, so you might have to stretch supplies.

I thought my ostomy was temporary... Nope. It's a permanent addition to my life.

Mysterious Mose
Feb 11, 2024 7:49 pm

Ileostomy here. I try to get at least 7 days on a barrier. If I start to get that tell-tale itch, I will change sooner. I found that the barrier rings were more prone to seepage, so I opted for a convex barrier. I have one low spot that is prone to leaks and, for the most part, the convex wafer has solved that issue. For now.

I think we all got the "every 4 days" talk. In an ideal world, that is certainly better for the peristomal skin, especially if you can get those naked showers at the same time. But in the real world, I think we all would like to delay the changing task as long as possible. :-)

Daniel

TerryLT
Feb 11, 2024 10:05 pm

Hi Bobbie, When you are a new ostomate, there is a big learning curve, so your doubts are natural. A good thing to do is try several different appliances, different brands, different flanges, i.e., flat versus convex, one piece or two, using a barrier ring, or not, etc., etc. All the suppliers are happy to send you free samples to try. With a colostomy (versus an ileostomy) getting a week's wear time is not unusual, so you may well be able to stretch it out. Making sure your application process is good will make a big difference. Before you apply a new appliance, make sure your skin is clean and really dry. Before you apply the flange, it's helpful to give it a 30-second blast with a blow dryer. Remove the backing and use the dryer on it just before applying it to your skin. Hold it in place firmly for a good minute or two (I usually count 90 seconds at least). This one step made a huge difference for me. Good luck, you'll get there!

Terry

Kimmy050263
Feb 11, 2024 11:13 pm

I am fairly new to this, and I am learning as I go. My boyfriend is getting better at adhering things, but he is still not comfortable going beyond 4 days. When she lets loose, she lets loose. I will say the barrier rings have made things last a bit longer. I am still not comfortable letting things go too long. For me, 4 days max.

Maried
Feb 12, 2024 3:15 am

Before it stinks and/or leaks... and everyone is different... looks like the average is 4 days (but you can go longer or shorter... it's really up to you). I have a colostomy one-piece bag... I change almost daily due to the smell... I guess colostomy has a lot more smell than an ileostomy.

BobbiesZoo
Feb 12, 2024 5:08 am

Thanks for all the replies. No family history of any of this. I am also the only one on either side with type 2 diabetes. Seriously would not be surprised to find out I'm adopted. :)

Using a Hollister 2-piece, no belt. One thing I found helpful... to help smooth out the area around my deep inny bellybutton was to cover it with a blister band-aid.

I will be checking out those sites mentioned, thanks again.

Kimmy050263
Feb 13, 2024 12:34 am

Hi Bobbie! This will be the first time I am going to have mine on for 4 days! Very nervous about it, but have seen no signs yet of leaking. I will definitely be changing tomorrow evening. My boyfriend changes my bag, he is getting better at smoothing things out, which I think has helped. I am going to pack some supplies for work tomorrow just in case.

warrior
Feb 13, 2024 3:05 am
Reply to Maried

Hi ..

This is in response to ileo vs colo stomies - bags, and smell.

I respectfully disagree. Speaking strictly as an ileo myself, I would think a new thread or topic should be made just on this subject.

To get others to chime in whether fact or fiction. My vote is fiction.

Our bags stink for a reason.

Smells come from leakage. Also, there is likely a smell from a lingering, porous bag that failed to be properly cleaned.

Transfer smells too. A stink that sticks although not a physical leak.

Like cigarette stink on a jacket.

There are many products available to reduce bag smell. One being M9... I have just started using M9 because of emptying the bag so often, the stink wanders throughout the house. Quite embarrassing with company over..

 

And the barrier rings to improve sealing.. and the mounting plate bracket with a belt serves me well.

I can't imagine either ileos or colos needing to replace the appliance on a daily basis due to stink.. unless a leak.

And the shit storm begins in.. 3... 2... 1..

 

 

 

Beachboy
Feb 13, 2024 12:49 pm

In my personal experience, my colostomy hardly smells. Provided the wafer and bag are properly, securely sealed. My wife only complains if I burp the bag in the house. That... leaves a mark!

As such... I totter to the garage to burp it. Cars don't seem to mind. And there are fewer spiders now... bonus.

IGGIE
Feb 13, 2024 1:55 pm

G'day guys, I have an ileostomy and I must be very lucky as I don't have a problem with smells. I must add before someone points it out that my nose does work. I religiously change my two-piece Hollister with a convex base every Monday and every Friday. I cannot remember when I last had a leak, but I put it down to the sealing washer I use, which is the "Salts Seal with Collar" (see photo). I might be lucky, but I wish my luck on all of you. Regards,

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aTraveler
Feb 13, 2024 2:43 pm
Reply to IGGIE

I have a colostomy and I change my appliance every Tuesday and Saturday. I use Eakin Slims along with my appliance. I tried Ostoform, but it doesn't work well with solid/semi-solid stool. It, along with collars, tends to work better with liquid stool.

TerryLT
Feb 13, 2024 9:42 pm
Reply to Maried

Hi Maried, I have to agree with Warrior on this one. If you are experiencing a stink, it means there is a problem, i.e., a leak about to happen, a not properly secured appliance, or an appliance that just doesn't fit properly for you. Have you never found a setup that would give you more than a day or two? It must be a huge pain to have to change so often! As to whether colostomies or ileostomies stink more, I can say that my experience, having had both, is that there really isn't any difference. I believe that what determines whether your poop smells or not is diet, period. I remember when I first got my ileo, and the ostomy nurse in the hospital came to help me change my appliance, I remarked that there wasn't any smell. I realize now that it was because all I was eating was really bland hospital food. As soon as I got home and started eating my normal diet, that totally changed. I eat lots of garlic, onions, cruciferous vegetables, beans, eggs, spices, etc., and my poop really stinks! It did when I had the colostomy and it does now. I only smell it when I empty or change my appliance and I go a full week between changes.

Terry