Stomach bug and what helps?

Hospitalized with some nasty bug I thought was going around, my output is just crazy, not stopping. Waiting for them to culture the germ responsible but in meantime need to slow things down so I can change my barrier before it breaks down. Anyone. else catch this bug?  Did anything help , the doctors don't want me taking Immodium so things will " flush through" but I need  to do something .

Hi Bob,

  Doesn't sound like fun you're having there!  Why not stop eating, then when your bowels are empty you can change your barrier.  Eating anything, even fiber, is still going to have to come out, and until you get the 'bug' under control your bowels will remain irritated/inflamed, so eating things that normally thicken the stool really won't work and will fly right thru too. Just a thought.

;O) 

Hi

Bob has come up with a great solution eat nothing for 24 hrs not even soups because all your doing is feeding the bug. Try sticking to clear fluids also for the 24hrs eg plain water  Hope you get better soon XX 

Hi Bobmac the last time i was admitted for a bug/food poisoning i was given clear liquids for a day along with anti nausea meds and when i was sent home the doc said only lite meals like soups or broth for a day.

Haven't eaten for 2 days, they have me on IV fluids which just keep going through me  most out my stoma not even my bladder.  It's the "bug" doing it.

Yes had my fair share of stomach bugs over the years agree with doctors best to let it run it's course as taking Imodium ect will keep it in your system for longer . If you have an ileostomy don't drink plain water it will come out in your bag almost as fast as you drink it making you dehydrate even more, add some cordial drink to water it makes all the difference and drink milk. 

Its just a case of being quick changing and don't worry about giving your skin a good wash just a quick wipe over will do in emergency situation you can change it in 1 minute when needed too, lay your new ostomy bag out ready peel the backing of it so it's ready & good to go and seal, barrier if you use them stand over basin in bathroom if stoma goes wild it wont go all over the floor remove your old ostomy bag quick wipe of your skin apply new bag . I used to have a high output jejunstomy stoma so I learnt very quickly how to change ostomy's fast when needed as it often did need doing.

What type of stoma do you have? Colostomy? Ileostomy? if Ileostomy, what type?

Hi Bob,

  So here's the deal.....the 'bug' is simply acute viral gastroenteritis, which means your bowels are inflamed from the virus.  Your body's defense against that is to secrete water into your bowel to flush out the virus as your immune system tries to kill it.  So drinking anything by mouth will result in it going straight into your bag, as the intestines cannot absorb when inflamed.  So you're dehydrating as your body fights the virus.  They give you IV fluids because SOME of what they inject will help to rehydrate you, while some will be pulled into your intestines to flush the bug out.  Bottom line is the diarrhea won't stop until the inflammation subsides, which depending on the specific virus....there's 3 or 4 of them that each lasts a different amount of time.....and can be anywhere from 1 to 7 days.  So your output may not subside for some time.  

To change your barrier with frequent output the best way is to do it on all fours over a bucket.  Don't laugh.....it's not pretty, but it works.  With your stoma horizontal it can drain straight down while you prep and dry your skin for your new barrier.  I'm assuming you're using a two-piece barrier/bag........as it will be much tougher with a one piece.  Of course if someone can help you it'll be much easier than doing it one handed........but I've done it, so it can be done. If there's an ostomy nurse in that hospital they should be able to help you out.  If not the wound care nurse should at least be able to hand you supplies as you need them when you change your barrier.  Not a good answer, I know........but it is what it is. 

Think of what a great story this will make in the near future!!  Give that virus hell, Brother!!

;O) 

Have to do this IN the hospital,  they have me on IV  Lactated Ringers and my stoma is doing the fire hose thing.  Need to change because its been  10 days , way past my usual interval, and  as the barrier breaks down I could get acid  burn.  Also I need  at least a minute  to Shave otherwise the barrier will not stick despite adhesive on it and glue I apply..Also need another minute to hold my hand on the barrier so the glue will stick cleanly or will have leakage.  One doctor tried to say the IV fluid was not affecting my output but since I'm NPO where is the liquid coming from .  This is going to be a challenge no matter how fast  I work......

Your experienced you can do it take a deep breath in and out and go for it,  whats the worse than can happen just some extra poop around it's easily cleaned up......when mine was at it worse I used to stand in shower without water running then could wash anything that came out away easily  

I Got'R done!  With the IV pump off things eased up and got a clean change done. Good thing, the bag and barrier were both starting to distintegrate.  Nurses kept interrupting, not helping and doctor lectured me after about how bad it was to have the IV off.  Don't care, its done!  Now want to start liquids by mouth why is hospital food so gross😬

Illeostomy, was told they removed the illeum too because the colitis was attacking that tissue.

Way to go Bob!  Hospital food is so bad because it's "hospital food".......it has a reputation to uphold!  Besides, if the food was good every homeless person from miles around would be showing up in the ER trying to get a few free meals.  This way no one would ever go to a hospital to eat! 

Without your terminal ileum your bile cannot be recycled, which just adds to your output.  Normally about 95% of your bile would be re-absorbed by your terminal ileum before it got to your ileocecal valve (which you also don't have), so you have a wide open highway with no tolls or slow down areas.  Get over that 'bug' and get the heck out of that hospital before they really screw you up!!

Glad to hear you got that barrier changed!!! I was getting ready to recommend you slip a hose over your stoma to let it drain in a bucket while you cleaned up and changed your barrier.  Now just get out of there before your next change is due!

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