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Popcorn & Gas

Posted by tess45, on Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:51 am
Hello All - I have two questions and would appreciate any help or advice on both. First one - has anybody with an ileo been able to eat Popcorn - it's one of my fav's and I need food right now that makes me happy - I had a small handful the other night and nothing bad happened but I am scared to try anymore. Is it the small hard brown part of the kernel that could cause a blockage because I can avoid those pieces if need be. Question two - I have been getting really bad gas overnight - when I wake up it's like having a Dolly Parton boob in my lap - I do take a no name gas pill before I go to sleep but it has not been working. I am one of those dreaded mouth breathers when I sleep so I know that is a large part of the problem - any suggestions anyone?

thanks
Terr
Reply by jghandymann, on Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:42 am
As for the popcorn.. I eat a bag almost every night. It helps with solidifying. My surgeon suggested it and I was scared at first but popcorn is less likely to block you than regular corn. Go figure. As for gas I've had the same problem and still don't know what to do. It's been so bad that the bag has blown off need I say more.. I try not to eat anything after 7pm which helps with the problem. If you come up with a solution let me know. Good Luck.
Reply by Primeboy, on Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:23 pm
Popcorn or nuts or even regular corn on the cob have never produced a blockage problem for me. As far as the gas is concerned, I think it's more a matter of what you eat than when you eat. Certain veggies can produce enough gas for use in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.
Reply by ambies, on Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:04 pm
Popcorn i carnt tolerate, but i have trouble with gas too,but ive found if i have 2 ginger biscuits in the evening its seems to cut down the amount of gas,not sure if its the ginger or what but it helps.. Try it carnt loose anything. ambies..
Reply by eddie, on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:37 am
The surgeon told me that was the only food to avoid, but like you I love it so I tried it and have ate it ever since with out any problems.  I have had an ileo for 8 years
eddie
Reply by Bill, on Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:54 am
Hello Tess45,
This reply is not likely to be of any practical use to those with an ileo but I thought it might be 'interesting'.  When I had a bag I suffered from gas. Possibly because I started eating just what I wanted to - after so many years on an enforced diet.  However, even on the diet I still had gas problems - so I figured that it was not necessarily the food that was causing it.  When I started irrigating. The input of water brought all the gas to the surface and that has a tendancy  to spurt out huge amounts of gas along with the first lot of water.   I am still bemused at the amount of gas that it produces.  I'm beginning to feel that I alone am the cause of global warming!  Anyway for the period until the next irrigation I have very little problem with gas.  This is just as weel as I use a stoma-plug and wonder if the pressure of too much gas would push it off.    I understand that there are preparations based on charcoal that reduce this problem of gas. However, like most things in life they are likely to cause another.  - like constipation.
   Best wishes   Bill
Reply by aapplet, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:45 pm
I have had an ileo for 18 years now and really have had no real problems that way.  I eat popcorn and nuts regularly and  it all seems to be okay.  The only problem I have, is if I eat too many raw vegetables.  I just have to remember to chew everything really well, as I have had a few blockages over the years.  Everyone is different, so I guess it is trial and error for everyone.
Reply by budd002, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:57 pm
I eat popcorn smothered in butter at least once a week. as for the gas, I eat yougart before bed as a snack. Not sure why  maybe it's the kive bacterial cultures but it seems to get rud of the gas for me....
Reply by dee05, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:02 pm
Ha Ha thanks for the chuckle   good answer
Take care
Reply by dee05, on Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:04 pm
Hello
I eat popcorn all the time and have not had any problems.. I to have an iliostomy.  For gas I have used gas X its just an over the counter tablet for gas. That seems to do the trick.  Good luck
Dee
Reply by greenfairy, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:17 am
HI I love popcorn and eat it all the time. I have never had a blockage in 11 years, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I have tried many brands and I stay away from the ones that are way too kernelly(Probably not a word, lol). Also this may sound weird, but I spit out all of the kernels that I can-you know all the small, thin, half circle pieces that get stuck in your teeth. I just get a bowl and spit them into it while eating my popcorn, it may sound weird or gross but I think it probably does help at least a little at avoiding blockages. I also chew very well before I swallow and drink lots of water. Well anyways that it my experience with popcorn, hope you have similar luck. Kel
Reply by spruse, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:13 am
I eat popcorn about twice a week with NO problems at all. No extra gas or blockage either.
Reply by weewee, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:03 am
they make a hulless popcorn you can find it on the internet
Reply by tess45, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:12 am
Thanks everyone for the replies - I will try the Ginger and the yogurt and continue to eat popcorn

Weewee - what site do you order from and flavor do you get?
Reply by gremlin, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:15 pm
Hi: Even though I am not susposed to eat poccorn I do once and a while. I am not supposed to eat regular corn eaither because it gets stuck in the pockets of the intestine. I do eat that occasionally also. You really need to check with your doctor and see what he says about what you can eat.
Past Member
Reply by Past Member, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:27 pm
I get away with eating air-popped popcorn (no butter) by chewing chewing chewing and spitting out anything that is "kernally".  I've gotten away with it so far.  But we all know there is risk.  Raw ginger speeds up my bowel and makes things worse in my case.
Reply by ambies, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:31 pm
I found ginger ok in a cookie or biscuit, works fine,i think raw ginger for me would be a no no...ambies
Reply by tess45, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:06 pm
ginger cookies are really hard to find here - so I am trying Ginger Tea - will let you know how that works out
Reply by dina, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:27 pm
Popcorn and corn
brought me to er a few years ago, i feel so scare to eat it.
Reply by ambies, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:46 pm
Hi Tess ginger herbal tea is just as good ,ive tried it and it still works.. good luck  ambies...
Reply by tommy 6644, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:59 pm
why do you feel you must eat pop corn?
if it causes you problems then dont eat it!...you must now change your eating habits to eat only those foods that do not give you problems ....i like pop corn especialy at the movies but after having an eppisode putting me in hospital with a blocked stoma because of pop corn ..........guess what   you got it i dont eat it anymore....i have had my ileostomy for 12 years   and know what and when i can eat certain foods...............never eat after 6pm  so you have a chance of an empty stomach later at night....no soda drinks....at night ...no curry,s....its hard i know i,m with you all the way......start training that unruly body its a spoilt child that wants its own way ...good luck....danny
Reply by tess45, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:06 pm
Tommy6644 - I don't feel that I have to eat popcorn - I like popcorn - and I have found that even though I was told to stay away from certain foods - I have found that I can eat things that I was warned about - like grapes and strawberries and raspberries and oranges etc - I just wanted to see if there are ileostomates that do eat popcorn and what they experienced. If I am trying something new I make sure that I eat a limited amount and drink fluids with it. BTW I eat way way past 6pm and have absolutely no problems - unless it's something high in sugar LOL - I also have no problem in drinking anything that is carbonated at any time of the day or night - so goes to prove my point about me - if it's weird or unusual I will be the one to experience it LOL
Reply by beatrice, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:24 pm
My gas has settled down alot.

What works for me: absolutely no carbonation (soda, sparkling water, beer). No milk products after about 3pm. No drinking with a straw. A dry-type snack about 1 to 1.5 hours before bed (crackers, chips, dry cereal - this has made a notable improvement).

Note: I do get up a couple times to empty during the night ... but there's hardly any gas. I used to Dolly Parton Bag too

p.s. can't do popcorn
Reply by tess45, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:35 pm
haven't tried crackers or dry cereal - I'll give it a go - thanks
Reply by tommy 6644, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:05 pm
my specialist said a strange thing to me ...........do you like marshmallows.....why i said ....eat as much as you like...l.o.l......it goes to prove we are all different....god bless all survivors of the big ....C.........
Reply by supernan, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:41 pm
For my colostomy, I have been told for diarrhea eat marshmallows, jelly babies and under ripe bananas, and for constipation eat licquorice and prunes.  I personally can't have fizzy, but treat myself if I am constipated by having the licquorice with Coke to help blow things along!  I was also told not to eat corn, (sweet or pop), nuts and dried fruit.  Guess every stoma nurse is different.
Reply by tess45, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:37 pm
One of the few junk foods that I can't stand also not in love with bananas either - what's a poor girl to do LOL
Reply by pixiebell, on Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:56 pm
I have yet to eat popcorn although I love it.  I have had my ileo for over 3 years now but I have so many issues with it just staying on without leaking out let alone trying a food that could cause a blockage!
I have woken up with my bag full of gas as well.  I find that I have to wake up every 3 or 4 hours to check on the bag.  No fail...if I sleep more then 5 hours at a time (which is a wonderful thing because I suffer huge insomnia) the bag fills and leaks out.  I am  not sure of the cause of it either.  I try to stop eating by 8pm...and I have greek yogurt for my last snack...although I do drink a lot overnight and I do get hungry so I eat dry cinn life cereal in the middle of the night.  LOL.  Try cutting yourself off from most foods by a certain point depending on when you usually go to bed...that might cut it down.  Also...depending on what company you get your ostomy supplies from...they do make a pill you can chew for gas and they also have one you can stick in the pouch.  I know that Byram healthcare has it because that is the company that I use.  Go to their website and either look around there or request a catalog be sent to you.  You will find them there.  They are charcoal or something like that.
Reply by newcomer, on Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:08 am
I have not eaten popcorn because I know what it can do. I have learned the stretches and ways of getting rid of blockage from corn or not chewing and went to the ER so chew chew chew is the answer and I eat alot of gummy lifesavers, luv em. No Popcorn
Reply by weewee, on Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:07 am
just type in hulless popcorn i have a number you can call really easy to find and not to bad on price either
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