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Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:01 pm

Does anyone use kratom? Have colostomy! It’s good for my neuropathy! Just wonder if it’s safe,

Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:00 pm

Here is some information I found online it is from Web MD.  Hope it helps.

Overview Information
Kratom is a tree. The leaves are used as a recreational drug and as medicine. Kratom is banned by some states in the U.S. due to safety concerns.

People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as well as cough, depression, anxiety, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.

Using kratom can also be unsafe. Kratom use has been linked to serious side effects including hallucinations, seizures, liver damage, withdrawal, and death. Due to these and other serious safety concerns, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to warn people to avoid using products containing kratom or its ingredients.

How does it work?
Kratom contains a chemical called mitragynine. Mitragynine works like opioid drugs such as codeine and morphine to relieve pain.

Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:05 pm

Tks for info! Helps my neuropathy!

Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:30 pm

You mean like in a salad?  I've had kratoms in my salad a few times, but you have to eat them quickly or they absorb the dressing and get soggy.  And soggy kratoms just plain suck.  I think they make them from old hard bread.  Just leave it on the counter overnight and the next morning it'll be hard as a brick.  Then just cut it up into little cubes and wha-la......you have kratoms.  Damn, now I'm getting hungry again.  Ok..........got to go find some food!

;0)

 

later,

bob

Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:17 am

Hello Lovely. Thanks for the Kratom lesson. I had not come across this drug before.

And Bob - I think you are refering to  'Croûtons' which are indeed stale bread, and tend to lacerate my gums and the roof of my mouth when eaten hard. I prefer them in soup where I can suck-em!

Best wishes

Bill

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:54 am

Oh come on Bill......Croutons....Kraytoms......let's not sweat the details.  You say "TomAto"....I say "TomOto".......it's all good.  Shit, now I'm hungry again...........ERRRR! (wink-wink)

 

later,

bob

Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:51 pm

I use kratom! I have been using it for about two months now. I get a lot of body aches and am not sure if it is from my previous fistula and ileostomy surgeries or not. I would love to hear if anyone else has gotten daily body aches after surgery.

Anyway, kratom is very beneficial.

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:41 pm
redrosendaisy wrote:

I use kratom! I have been using it for about two months now. I get a lot of body aches and am not sure if it is from my previous fistula and ileostomy surgeries or not. I would love to hear if anyone else has gotten daily body aches after surgery.

Anyway, kratom is very beneficial.


It’s also good for anxiety and depression! Trick is determining how much to take!

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:55 pm
honestabe wrote:


It’s also good for anxiety and depression! Trick is determining how much to take!


Yes, it is. I take around 3.5g every four to six hours.

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:14 pm

Same here!

redrosendaisy wrote:


Yes, it is. I take around 3.5g every four to six hours.



Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:59 pm

Is this a prescription drug or Health food store natural remedy? Sounds interesting! Will have to check it out. 
i do know that major trama, as we all have had with our health, as well as anxiety, or any other emotional event can cause your nobody to react and that is when Fibromyalgia begins. Usually triggered by one of the above events. Mine kicked in when I was in a car accident and has continued to get worse through more cancer and surgeries. It is impossible to differentiate the pain of surgery, cancer, old age, or Fibromyalgia! It is all painful as well as other         Co-morbidities of surgery. May have to research this and consult my Dr. I cannot take any of the drugs that are suppose to relieve the Fibromyalgia. Cymbalta sent me to the ER thinking I was having a heart attack. Wicked stuff! 
Thanks for bringing this to the forum!

Puppy

Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:50 am

Yes Mayo Clinic and pharmaceutical claim it is dangerous and addictive! Maybe it is to some people! Been using it 2 months and stopped 2 weeks !No withdrawal! It is good for anxiety,depression and pain! Problem is determining amount to take! It’s not a drug! Spent weeks researching! Also used for people getting off alcohol and other drugs! I didn’t even want a beer! Will catch some arguments! If in severe pain you try anything! Start with 1-2 grams and build up! If taking blood thinners you can’t use this! Talk to your doctor! I am not taking any medication so I just started taking it! I tried Gabapentin and thought I was loosing my mind! Talk to your doctor as I think this will help you!

Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:10 am
honestabe wrote:

Yes Mayo Clinic and pharmaceutical claim it is dangerous and addictive! Maybe it is to some people! Been using it 2 months and stopped 2 weeks !No withdrawal! It is good for anxiety,depression and pain! Problem is determining amount to take! It’s not a drug! Spent weeks researching! Also used for people getting off alcohol and other drugs! I didn’t even want a beer! Will catch some arguments! If in severe pain you try anything! Start with 1-2 grams and build up! If taking blood thinners you can’t use this! Talk to your doctor! I am not taking any medication so I just started taking it! I tried Gabapentin and thought I was loosing my mind! Talk to your doctor as I think this will help you!


Hi Abe, 

i have not tried Gabapentin or Lyrica because the Cymbalta was so bad. They all work the same and they too are addictive. You have to ramp down on them to get off. My mother did take Both Lyrica and Gabapentin for her neuropathy and was on them for years. Never got off of them. I have just been enduring the pain and using Acetaminophen PM at night to sleep. It helps! I don't take any meds except HCTZ for blood pressure so I am good but I will ask my doctor. You said you went off of it. Why? Just to see if you thought you were addicted? I don't tend to have addictive qualities except to chocolate and coffee! Lol 
thanks for the Info. 

Axl
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:16 pm
redrosendaisy wrote:

I use kratom! I have been using it for about two months now. I get a lot of body aches and am not sure if it is from my previous fistula and ileostomy surgeries or not. I would love to hear if anyone else has gotten daily body aches after surgery.

Anyway, kratom is very beneficial.


Hi Red

Yes,  I too now have aches and pains all over my body which weren't there before surgeries. Difficult to sleep most nights is the main issue.

Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:58 am
Axl wrote:


Hi Red

Yes,  I too now have aches and pains all over my body which weren't there before surgeries. Difficult to sleep most nights is the main issue.


Thank goodness! I thought I was either going crazy or just imagining it. I wouldn't be able to sleep if it wasn't for kratom. I take some before bed and it really helps.

I have an appointment with my surgeon today and am going to mention it to him today.

Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:15 pm

I research kratom constantly! It’s a plant based herb! Anyway, I take it for pain and neuropathy! Works for me ! That and booze only thing that works! Also, it helps to stop taking drugs, booze etc for addicts! Quit after 2 months, no withdrawal! Just trying to help people in pain like me! At our age , who cares it’s addictive or not? Give a try, lot safer than alcohol or opioids!

lovely wrote:

Here is some information I found online it is from Web MD.  Hope it helps.

Overview Information
Kratom is a tree. The leaves are used as a recreational drug and as medicine. Kratom is banned by some states in the U.S. due to safety concerns.

People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as well as cough, depression, anxiety, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.

Using kratom can also be unsafe. Kratom use has been linked to serious side effects including hallucinations, seizures, liver damage, withdrawal, and death. Due to these and other serious safety concerns, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to warn people to avoid using products containing kratom or its ingredients.

How does it work?
Kratom contains a chemical called mitragynine. Mitragynine works like opioid drugs such as codeine and morphine to relieve pain.



Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:40 pm

I research kratom constantly! It’s a plant based herb! Anyway, I take it for pain and neuropathy! Works for me ! That and booze only thing that works! Also, it helps to stop taking drugs, booze etc for addicts! Quit after 2 months, no withdrawal! Just trying to help people in pain like me! At our age , who cares it’s addictive or not? Give a try, lot safer than alcohol or opioids!

lovely wrote:

Here is some information I found online it is from Web MD.  Hope it helps.

Overview Information
Kratom is a tree. The leaves are used as a recreational drug and as medicine. Kratom is banned by some states in the U.S. due to safety concerns.

People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as well as cough, depression, anxiety, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.

Using kratom can also be unsafe. Kratom use has been linked to serious side effects including hallucinations, seizures, liver damage, withdrawal, and death. Due to these and other serious safety concerns, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) continues to warn people to avoid using products containing kratom or its ingredients.

How does it work?
Kratom contains a chemical called mitragynine. Mitragynine works like opioid drugs such as codeine and morphine to relieve pain.



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