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Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:27 am
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but I have a two piece bag, I change the wafer thingy once-twice a week and the bags I just put on take off and throw away, no mess no nothing, nice actually, but I love to swim and get scared that if i swim, i have to wrap it and do all of this silly stuff, in fear of it falling off? Anyone have any ideas, I've got 2 boys who love to swim, and I love swimming myself, so if anyone could shoot a secret or two my way that's be great thanks!
Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:53 am
Goodmorning SK,
Do you have ILEO or colo , I forgot, however know that I get 5-7 days/wafer and then I use one pouch that lasts 4-5 days/week.After emptying i back flush with a glass of warm ( not hot) water and that keeps me feeling extra clean..........Just so you know those pouches range in price 5-10 dollars a piece........... If you use a drainable, the backflushing works great, and if you use the closed end. ( I dont know what to say) I dont like or use the closed end.......As far as swimming goes, as long as you have a good seal on the wafer and depending on whether you swim in ocean, salt or fresh water will determine how long after swim you might have to change...If its just a pool, there should be no diff in wear time..........Michael:)
As far as what to do with pouch, just empty before swim, and depending on output or how soon after you eat will determine how long it will be before it fills up and you might want to get out of the water...This past summer i swam in Gulf of Mexico, 4 straight hours without getting out and not even knowing i had a pouch...Know that because the salt level is so high, after each swim that night I would change the wafer..........thats all.....Hope some of this helps........
PS. There is nothing special that i do other than making sure its empty upon entering the water............thats it because my seal on wafer is always good.............I too am a swimmer and a diver.............And i have no problems.Michael
Do you have ILEO or colo , I forgot, however know that I get 5-7 days/wafer and then I use one pouch that lasts 4-5 days/week.After emptying i back flush with a glass of warm ( not hot) water and that keeps me feeling extra clean..........Just so you know those pouches range in price 5-10 dollars a piece........... If you use a drainable, the backflushing works great, and if you use the closed end. ( I dont know what to say) I dont like or use the closed end.......As far as swimming goes, as long as you have a good seal on the wafer and depending on whether you swim in ocean, salt or fresh water will determine how long after swim you might have to change...If its just a pool, there should be no diff in wear time..........Michael:)
As far as what to do with pouch, just empty before swim, and depending on output or how soon after you eat will determine how long it will be before it fills up and you might want to get out of the water...This past summer i swam in Gulf of Mexico, 4 straight hours without getting out and not even knowing i had a pouch...Know that because the salt level is so high, after each swim that night I would change the wafer..........thats all.....Hope some of this helps........
PS. There is nothing special that i do other than making sure its empty upon entering the water............thats it because my seal on wafer is always good.............I too am a swimmer and a diver.............And i have no problems.Michael
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:00 am
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I do not have a open bag, my insurance is pretty good, so i have the closed end, which I can just throw away after, well yha know. Thanks for the info. I worry about stupid stuff sometimes and it prevents me from doing somethings i love because I'm just plain scared because i don't know the answer, silly huh but thanks again and hope your doing ok
I do not have a open bag, my insurance is pretty good, so i have the closed end, which I can just throw away after, well yha know. Thanks for the info. I worry about stupid stuff sometimes and it prevents me from doing somethings i love because I'm just plain scared because i don't know the answer, silly huh but thanks again and hope your doing ok
Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:06 am
I,m from the UK so I am spoilt all our ostomy supplies are free. If you ins. will cover it you can get stoma caps, a small round closed pouch they only hold up to 50 ml. there are good for using when going swimming.
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Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:01 pm
I have never had a problem swimming (even in the surf)...my swimsuit doesn't show an outline even when wet (I have an ileo and wear a two-piece system) and the bag just dries when you do in the sun or when you dry off (same as when after a shower or bath). I even think the base adheres better after swimming but then I only usually change the whole deal once a week so this may be different for you. As panther said if you have a colostomy you can wear a cap if it's easier.
Hope you find something cos there's nothing like taking the plunge and diving right in hey!
Cheers,
Jo
Hope you find something cos there's nothing like taking the plunge and diving right in hey!
Cheers,
Jo
Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:14 pm
hi sweetkat , l like swimming myself and was in my local pool the other night . all l can say about it is , make sure your flange is in good condition, and if you feel the need to put adhesive around it for extra security, if you need to get out of the pool, just check it again in toilet, you will be fine , it helps also if you have waistband close to flange and pouch , that helps keep it pressed in . l have been swimming all my life and it gives me no trouble .
let me know how you get on . sherl ,
let me know how you get on . sherl ,
Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:22 pm
Hi sweetkat! 
I LOVE swimming...on hot days in summer you can't drag me out of the water, I'm either submerged IN it or floating on top of it, but I am a lake and river swimmer and I usually sneak out to remote areas by myself ... I always bring an extra pouch with me just in case I have a problem, but heck, when I'm in the lake, especially alone, I don't care what happens lol I throw everything to the fates and totally free myself 
....when I'm in the water I'm wet for a looonnng time....and if my pouch wants to let loose from my body, it can just flippin' go for all I care lmao
....now of course I understand that being in a public pool with other people is a whole different story.....
Some pouches (hey Michael, notice I'm using the word 'pouch'
) hold up better than others but I discovered my Hollister Premier pouches hold up in water longer than others I've tried, it's a one-piece ..very comfortable too There are so many different types of pouches and tapes...but...it also depends on our individual skin conditions sometimes as well...some people have 'weepy' skin and at that point there might be more trouble with the length of time one can wear a pouch, especially in the water. Good suggestions are popping in here. Good luck and have fun in the water!!
I LOVE swimming...on hot days in summer you can't drag me out of the water, I'm either submerged IN it or floating on top of it, but I am a lake and river swimmer and I usually sneak out to remote areas by myself ... I always bring an extra pouch with me just in case I have a problem, but heck, when I'm in the lake, especially alone, I don't care what happens lol I throw everything to the fates and totally free myself ....when I'm in the water I'm wet for a looonnng time....and if my pouch wants to let loose from my body, it can just flippin' go for all I care lmao
....now of course I understand that being in a public pool with other people is a whole different story.....
Some pouches (hey Michael, notice I'm using the word 'pouch'
) hold up better than others but I discovered my Hollister Premier pouches hold up in water longer than others I've tried, it's a one-piece ..very comfortable too There are so many different types of pouches and tapes...but...it also depends on our individual skin conditions sometimes as well...some people have 'weepy' skin and at that point there might be more trouble with the length of time one can wear a pouch, especially in the water. Good suggestions are popping in here. Good luck and have fun in the water!!
Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:20 am
Not stupid at all -- it was my first question to my surgeon when he said I had to have an ileostomy!
Glad to read all the encouraging answers (again - I asked them too awhile back about snorkeling
).
Can't wait till I get this anal discharge/possible fistula cleared up ... I'll be in the pool in a flash.
Don't let the 'pouch' keep you from enjoying the water with your boys, sweetkat!
Jo - the outline of my pouch is visible under my suit, more so once it fills a bit (ileo) ... what type of suit do you have? Got to say that once I'll be in the ocean with the fishes, I won't care who sees what!
Glad to read all the encouraging answers (again - I asked them too awhile back about snorkeling
).
Can't wait till I get this anal discharge/possible fistula cleared up ... I'll be in the pool in a flash.
Don't let the 'pouch' keep you from enjoying the water with your boys, sweetkat!
Jo - the outline of my pouch is visible under my suit, more so once it fills a bit (ileo) ... what type of suit do you have? Got to say that once I'll be in the ocean with the fishes, I won't care who sees what!
Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:08 am
you can go to drypro.com they have what you asked for it aint a prety site but you are water proofed
Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:21 am
| beatrice wrote: |
| Jo - the outline of my pouch is visible under my suit, more so once it fills a bit (ileo) ... what type of suit do you have? Got to say that once I'll be in the ocean with the fishes, I won't care who sees what! |
Beatrice, I have just a regular one piece swimsuit (black) that has extra layers (like "ruching"?) over the stomach area which holds me in but is really comfy and doesn't look matronly! Just bought it a chain department store here (Big W, really cheap) so they would be available world-wide no doubt.
Even if I have output, with the larger pouch on, it doesn't "balloon" (have spent all day at the beach with only one unload needed!).
Cheers...Jo...
Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:00 pm
I use Hollister's image two-piece system with no tape.
I frame my wafer with vinyl tape before I go in the water.
Then I run the blow dryer to the wafer rather than let it dry on its own. I let the pouch dry on its own.
It's been my experience that letting the wafer dry on its own has caused it to smell like mildew as well as become a breeding ground for yeast.
If I have extra supplies, I change it out all together.
Swim girl. Enjoy your freedom!
I frame my wafer with vinyl tape before I go in the water.
Then I run the blow dryer to the wafer rather than let it dry on its own. I let the pouch dry on its own.
It's been my experience that letting the wafer dry on its own has caused it to smell like mildew as well as become a breeding ground for yeast.
If I have extra supplies, I change it out all together.
Swim girl. Enjoy your freedom!
Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:34 pm
I've seen that type of style before ... will be on the lookout now to buy. Makes sense that the ruching hides things a bit.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:23 pm
well thats what i said when my exwife and i were invite to a pool party..welll i sat at the edge for a few min..and was very cautious for a few min...then i went in slow stood there for 5 min to see if the wafer would peel off or losen...wooohoo i was good didnt feel it come lose or nothing.i was so JAZZZZZZed i was in the pool for and hour...and this was 3 yrs ago..there is a pool at my apt and YES i do swim every chance i get..make sure the wafer you use is well glued from the Mfg company i use the holister products...
Hope this helps...
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Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:05 pm
I too have an ileostomy, and normally change the whole thing every 4 days. As well I use Hollister products. As far as swimming goes, I try not to swim too often as I find that with having a shower and then swimming, it seems to get more saturated and the need to change more often. They are expensive to buy and don't have insurance where I live, so if I can avoid swimming, I will. I love to swim and we live on the ocean, so it is tough for me to not go out there. I had a few issues last summer, as I have a small fistula next to my stoma and not sure if the salt water had anything to do with it, but started to get a little infected so now I am more leary of going into salt water.
Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:04 pm
Hi Sweet Kat, I think everyone covered most of the preparation before swimming.
If your Bag has a filter at the top its best to seal it with the little sticky things they put in the supplies. If you forget its not a problem.
I like to body surf as well as ride a surf board so I am always wearing board shorts which help to secure the sticky base to my skin.
The only problem I have experienced is the base started to peel off when body surfing in big waves, but I got around that problem by wearing a wet suit vest or a sun shirt to overlap over my shorts.
Keep on swimming sweet kat.
Ocean Blue
If your Bag has a filter at the top its best to seal it with the little sticky things they put in the supplies. If you forget its not a problem.
I like to body surf as well as ride a surf board so I am always wearing board shorts which help to secure the sticky base to my skin.
The only problem I have experienced is the base started to peel off when body surfing in big waves, but I got around that problem by wearing a wet suit vest or a sun shirt to overlap over my shorts.
Keep on swimming sweet kat.
Ocean Blue
Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:09 am
Hi everyone
I was told that I could go swimming with the 'pouch' and said "Yahoo!" I love to swim and find it releasing of tension... I use Salts and Coloplast and find both of them are good even in the water. This is a question most commonly asked here on the Gold Coast Australia with ostomates.
I don't have any special swimmers and just use the pouch I was wearing that morning and I swim in bikinis (with tight swim shorts over) and thensit up on the sand with the shorts off. When I get up I put a towel around my waist.
I don't let the ostomy rule me and if you feel comfortable swimming, you do it!
JAx
Sorry if I sound wrong. I think if you want to do something, you should go for it!
I was told that I could go swimming with the 'pouch' and said "Yahoo!" I love to swim and find it releasing of tension... I use Salts and Coloplast and find both of them are good even in the water. This is a question most commonly asked here on the Gold Coast Australia with ostomates.
I don't have any special swimmers and just use the pouch I was wearing that morning and I swim in bikinis (with tight swim shorts over) and thensit up on the sand with the shorts off. When I get up I put a towel around my waist.
I don't let the ostomy rule me and if you feel comfortable swimming, you do it!
JAx
Sorry if I sound wrong. I think if you want to do something, you should go for it!
Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:02 pm
Hi,
I just returned Monday from a week in Miami and my first vacation with an ostomy. I had a letter from the surgeon if they questioned me in the scanning machine, my old bathing suit which I had tried on at home..a tankini which looked fine..and nerves. The beach was fine except Miami Beach at 17th Street had no bathroom. Made it to Macy's later. Swimming pool swimming was fine except the little sticky that goes over the vent in my two piece Convatec system was gone when I came out of the water. I took on a bit of the pool water because of that but swimming felt great. There was a man at the pool wearing a bathing suit and his prosthetic leg was completely visible. Made me feel better if anyone caught a glimpse of my "difference". I wore a cover up and had a waist sarong thing that I tied on. Enjoy.
I just returned Monday from a week in Miami and my first vacation with an ostomy. I had a letter from the surgeon if they questioned me in the scanning machine, my old bathing suit which I had tried on at home..a tankini which looked fine..and nerves. The beach was fine except Miami Beach at 17th Street had no bathroom. Made it to Macy's later. Swimming pool swimming was fine except the little sticky that goes over the vent in my two piece Convatec system was gone when I came out of the water. I took on a bit of the pool water because of that but swimming felt great. There was a man at the pool wearing a bathing suit and his prosthetic leg was completely visible. Made me feel better if anyone caught a glimpse of my "difference". I wore a cover up and had a waist sarong thing that I tied on. Enjoy.
Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:32 pm
Hi Cee - thanks so much for letting us know your experience! Glad to hear it went well. I've got the same system as you do and I'm looking forward to my first dip.
Well done - I'm happy for you.
Well done
- I'm happy for you.
Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:41 pm
I'm from Indiana, so the only swimming i do is in the pool hahaha, put every little bit of info helps thanks bunches,
Kat
Kat
| Oceanblue wrote: |
| Hi Sweet Kat, I think everyone covered most of the preparation before swimming. If your Bag has a filter at the top its best to seal it with the little sticky things they put in the supplies. If you forget its not a problem. I like to body surf as well as ride a surf board so I am always wearing board shorts which help to secure the sticky base to my skin. The only problem I have experienced is the base started to peel off when body surfing in big waves, but I got around that problem by wearing a wet suit vest or a sun shirt to overlap over my shorts. Keep on swimming sweet kat. Ocean Blue |
Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:45 pm
Me too, this will not keep me down, 26 goin on 27 heck no, This is sunch a great site to all of you I appreciate it very much... I've just been a little frightened and stayed on a raft, it's good to know that my son and I can play marco polo!!! lol
| Jax wrote: |
| Hi everyone I was told that I could go swimming with the 'pouch' and said "Yahoo!" I love to swim and find it releasing of tension... I use Salts and Coloplast and find both of them are good even in the water. This is a question most commonly asked here on the Gold Coast Australia with ostomates. I don't have any special swimmers and just use the pouch I was wearing that morning and I swim in bikinis (with tight swim shorts over) and thensit up on the sand with the shorts off. When I get up I put a towel around my waist. I don't let the ostomy rule me and if you feel comfortable swimming, you do it! JAx Sorry if I sound wrong. I think if you want to do something, you should go for it! |
Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:47 pm
Don't know if that was to me but, oh yeah what fun too Party...lol
Thanks
Thanks
| WOUNDED DOE wrote: |
| Maybe we'll all meet up at a beach party one day |
Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:12 pm
I have had colostomy (for rectal cancer) for 4 1/2 years now; have gotten quite used to it with very few problems. I use Hollister 2 pc system and rings and have been changing every 4-5 days, usually because of pancaking and/or slight leak at wafer's edge when rinsing. Some OstoMate on this site recommended Sure Seal ring for swimming and I ordered and tried them last week. Didn't change for 7 days, everything tight, I'm very impressed. Excellent for exercise, swimming. Probably effective for hot weather sweating, etc.
Hair pulling somewhat painful on removal but that will improve with continued use as hairless area develops.
Cost of about $25 for 10 seals is not covered by insurance. It should be, especially as it extends useful life of wafer and pouch.
Thanks for the recommendation.
Hair pulling somewhat painful on removal but that will improve with continued use as hairless area develops.
Cost of about $25 for 10 seals is not covered by insurance. It should be, especially as it extends useful life of wafer and pouch.
Thanks for the recommendation.
