New Stoma: Wax Ring Issues and Bag Sticking to Stoma - Need Advice

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JustMeRLB
Dec 02, 2023 3:46 am

Hi friends. My surgery went well! I came home on Wednesday night.
So… my pants were a bit snug that I went home in and when I was sitting I didn't notice that the waistband was directly over my stoma. The wax ring got malformed and started smushing out between the wafer and stoma. I have some what looks like sticky wax on the top side of the bag and it looks like it's sticking to the stoma and wax ring on the bottom part of the plastic. I've also noticed the bag like suctioning to my stoma and when this has happened, I have very little output. I am wondering if this has happened to anyone else and if I should just go ahead and change the bag. The HH nurse said it was fine and I should just wait to change. I'm a bit worried as I know my stoma isn't like a geyser, and don't know if it's preventing stool from passing.
TIA!
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AlexT
Dec 02, 2023 3:59 am

Do you have a filter on your bag?

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14jax71
Dec 02, 2023 4:01 am

Hi, 

I have a urostomy, and mine will stick. I have a two-piece, so when it happens, I will unsnap the top of the bag from the flange to get a little air in. That way I can get the bag unstuck. 

14jax71
Dec 02, 2023 4:08 am

I also meant to say that I'm happy your surgery went well.

IGGIE
Dec 02, 2023 4:15 am

Do you have an ileostomy or a colostomy? Ileostomy flows more than a colostomy.

 
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Beachboy
Dec 02, 2023 4:26 am

Output will usually push my sticking bag aside, even with lots of pancaking (when poop sticks to the bag on top of the stoma).

Do you have a one or two piece flange/bag setup?

JustMeRLB
Dec 02, 2023 4:37 am
Reply to AlexT

Yes, I do. I haven't received supplies yet, just stuff from the hospital. So I didn't get any of those stickers to cover it yet.

JustMeRLB
Dec 02, 2023 4:38 am
Reply to 14jax71

Thank you so much. Still in pain… but that will go away soon.

JustMeRLB
Dec 02, 2023 4:39 am
Reply to IGGIE

Ileostomy feels like the stoma is not able to flow around the wax on the top of the bag.

JustMeRLB
Dec 02, 2023 4:41 am
Reply to Beachboy

It's a one-piece… I will probably change to a two-piece when I am able to order.

Justbreathe
Dec 02, 2023 12:27 pm

I frequently have the wax ring pieces on my stoma and into the bag - I hate it when this happens. It's a result of not matching up the barrier ring with the edge of the hole in the bag. If I take great care in matching those up and then squeezing them tightly together around the hole, the wax stays put doing its job. Not to fear though - the wax floating around, sticking to the stoma, or stuck to the bag is harmless.
I cannot answer the flowage question, only to say once up in the early a.m., no output at all until my cup of coffee… just like the old days after coffee - drink one cup, pee five cups, only now it mostly exits through my stoma. My coffee has creamer going into my mouth, but the exit is brown water… I have a loop ileostomy, not a colostomy. jb

ron in mich
Dec 02, 2023 2:58 pm

Hi RLB, glad to hear the surgery went well. It's a steep learning curve from here on, but there are a lot of good people here to answer any questions you might have. As for the flange riding up on your stoma, just use your finger and go around your stoma and gently push on the waxy part to get your stoma to stick out.

eefyjig
Dec 02, 2023 3:23 pm

Glad all went well with your surgery. Open up the end of the bag and blow some air in, then close it up. I do this occasionally, but I have an ileo, so my own gas and looser output seldom cause your issue.

AlexT
Dec 02, 2023 3:51 pm
Reply to JustMeRLB

You can use tape, and once your filter gets clogged, having it suck to your stoma won't be an issue. Get some air in the bag and use lubricant to keep the bag from sticking to itself.

IGGIE
Dec 04, 2023 12:06 pm

I think you should try a two-piece convex bag. I like Hollister, and it works well for my ileostomy. My bag is the Hollister 18183. The wafer is the Hollister 13505, which has a pre-cut hole of 29mm. The seal I use is made by Salts, and it has a collar. Again, my size is 29mm, so I order Salts DC29. You will have to measure your stoma and order as required. The image is of the Salts seal with a collar. Regards, IGGIE

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