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Posted by britathrt60, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:02 am

Hi all

has anyone on here with an Ileostomy ever used bags that have filters?  Do they release the air so bag doesn't blow up.  I was thinking of trying some but not sure if because of high output and mostly liquid contents it may cause seeping through filter.... thanks in advance....Ange

Reply by Longroad78, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:19 am

I use the coloplast mio two piece system that has the charcoal filter but it is hit or miss when it comes to releasing the extra pressure from the bag. The issue you will run into with the filtered bags are once the filter starts to get wet, it will start to release the smell of the contents, a little tape to cover the filter will buy some time if you are in a place where changing it out is not a option. Normally can get 2-4 days out of the bag because of the filter getting wet but that is why I use a two piece system. 

 

Reply by britathrt60, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:33 am
Longroad78 wrote:

I use the coloplast mio two piece system that has the charcoal filter but it is hit or miss when it comes to releasing the extra pressure from the bag. The issue you will run into with the filtered bags are once the filter starts to get wet, it will start to release the smell of the contents, a little tape to cover the filter will buy some time if you are in a place where changing it out is not a option. Normally can get 2-4 days out of the bag because of the filter getting wet but that is why I use a two piece system. 

 

Thanks Longroad I'm not sure they would work for me...

Reply by w30bob, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:48 am

 Hi Ange,

  I looked into bads with filters/vent but didn't think that would work well with my mostly liquid output when I slept on my back or side. I don't think you want the filter/vent constantly exposed to liquid or it will saturate the membrane.  But maybe others who use them can speak to it better than I can. If you're not looking for a way to automatically release gas maybe this might help.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.shopostomysupplies.com/ar-how-to-prevent-excess-gas-accumulating-in-your-ostomy-pouch.html&ved=2ahUKEwjCk5rv1rTnAhXLhXIEHbA3DdwQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0LZ6tUtZPaZaMdKIoTOpG8

Regards,

Bob

Reply by Bill, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:58 am

Hello Ange.

There is an alternative to bags with built-in vents and they are called OSTO-EZ-VENT.  I sent for some samples and they worked reasonably well.  They are a simple device like you might have on a blow-up camping bed (but much smaller) this simply attaches to whatever bag you are using. The people who sent me samples were a British company but I'm not sure if they were just distributers. I feel sure you can Google them to view the product online. 

Best wishes

Bill

Reply by Cplumber, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:32 am

I have an illiostomy and tried bags with filters. But like everyone else as soon as the filter got wet it didn't work. I do use the easy vents and they work well, still get the smells. 

good luck 

Chris 

Axl
Reply by Axl, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:42 am

Hello

I use Braun flexima convex, doesnt smell and only recall a few times at night when it has ballooned up, I suspect as the filter has been submerged from being horizontal while sleeping ?

But during the day no ballooning at all and has absolutely never leaked from the filter or been any odour, but then again maybe its just the way my body works.

Reply by britathrt60, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:22 am

 

 

Thanks everyone for all the really good info... The OSTO EZ VENTS look like they may work but where would you attach them onto the bag...the link Bob sent menrtioned them but didn't actually say how to attach them...I will definitely check them out..Thanks again.....Ange

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EZ VENT

Reply by PETey.13, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:02 pm
Longroad78 wrote:

I use the coloplast mio two piece system that has the charcoal filter but it is hit or miss when it comes to releasing the extra pressure from the bag. The issue you will run into with the filtered bags are once the filter starts to get wet, it will start to release the smell of the contents, a little tape to cover the filter will buy some time if you are in a place where changing it out is not a option. Normally can get 2-4 days out of the bag because of the filter getting wet but that is why I use a two piece system. 

 

Yes, hit and miss! It is the same for the 3 main brands. Also,  I just don't eat after 7 PM; and no dairy for supper.

Reply by warrior, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:02 pm
britathrt60 wrote:

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Thanks everyone for all the really good info... The OSTO EZ VENTS look like they may work but where would you attach them onto the bag...the link Bob sent menrtioned them but didn't actually say how to attach them...I will definitely check them out..Thanks again.....Ange

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EZ VENT


Hi Ange. I have used these and recommed them. . they attach to the upper part of yur pouch..almost inline with yur stoma.  I will send ya the instructions from home.  Basically u make a small incision in the bag.  and use the self adhesive tabs to secure it. Yeah its like a tape on thing.  Its a vent not filter.  It saves u the trouble of separating the bag from wafer when u purge.  Its neat.  Very tiny hole with a plug.  Sometimes it does clog.  I use a tooth pick to unclog it.   

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:39 pm

Hey guys,

i use Convetec and Coloplast two piece pouch systems with filters. They are basically good until the first time you get any output on it. Then you have to use the little tapes they send you for showering for the rest of the time you wear the pouch. At least with Convetec pouches, I can burp the bag. They now have a peep hole so I can peek in to be sure there is no poo up around there. ( have done that in the middle of the night before , what a disaster)

Coloplast click system is too difficult to burp. I have pretty much quit wearing them and unfortunately, with the exception of the click system, they are the much better pouch. Maybe I should order some vents for those pouches.  
At least I would wear them.

good luck!

Puppy

 

Reply by Suzzie, on Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:02 pm

I use Hollister new image closed pouch with filter. and I never do get gas. I works perfect for me. 

Reply by warrior, on Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:01 pm

It is probably safe to say most filters do an excellant job of venting and reduction of smell.. when You are walking or maybe even sitting.. (wheel chair)   however with high liquid output I can see the filter rendered useless. and laying down for bed... nope.. aint gunna work.. once the filter gets wet, whether showering, or poopping, that's it... game over..

Now these e-z vents are decent to help relieve the gas build up.. easy to install.. only thing is venting in public rest room, would mean u need your portable poop pori cause it does nothing to hide the smell. u might as well think of it as farting in an elevator.  cough cough.. 

burping your bag referrs to opening the top end of it to relieve your gas. ( the click type mio sucks for that...) cant do that laying down and even with the e-z vent , u gotta do it standing up...not in bed. so there are pros and cons. but you will adjust.. whatever works for you..

 I agree, dont eat after 8pm.. or eat anything you know is gunna wake you up in the middle of night in terms of gas and output..  but some folks cant control their output.. all they can do is catch in in the bag.  now when I say control, everyone knows the marshmellow trick, right?  food that binds you may help you get a good nights sleep.. then again so can a pill or pot. 

wish there was a machine of sorts.. a suction machine with its own filter.. at bed side.... and a long tube to suck the smell out of the bag. .but who can sleep  with this contraption? and suppose it creates a vacuum? tricky shit there folks. 

so we got filters that help to a degree... and e-z vent purging valve.. there's  the old purge at top of bag..  am I missing anything here??  

Warrior 

 

Reply by warrior, on Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:05 pm
Suzzie wrote:

I use Hollister new image closed pouch with filter. and I never do get gas. I works perfect for me. 


Hi Suzzie,

Welcome.

please explain how you never do get gas??  the filter  eases the gas with no smell from the charcoal, right?  so YOU  do get gas.. but the filter is doing its job properly. no ballooning. no smell.

you got the midas touch then dear. 

Warrior

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