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Foods that go down good

Posted by beatrice, on Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:36 pm
Piggybacking on Imperfects "Foods I miss" -- let's list the foods that really go down well. Might give others an idea of what to try.

Most pureed things don't cause a problem, so maybe let's limit this to food that we eat non-pureed.

Me (ileo): Potatoes (no skin), rice, cooked carrots, small amounts of chicken/ground beef/turkey/fish, avacado, pasta, cheese, cheesie puffs , white bread, cottage cheese, canned mandarin and peaches, plain muffins, Motts low sodium Garden Cocktail Juice, perogies, skim milk, coffee in small amount, fruit juices, egg

So - not too bad. But I sure miss the raw veggies

Biggest thing is chew, chew, chew. If I forget and gobble a bit, I pay for it later - no matter what I ate.
Reply by beatrice, on Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:57 pm
Ok folks --- am I the only one eating here ?

From reading on the Forum, I know that lots of food cause trouble ... pipe in and share what's working for you!

Let me add Campbells Cream of Potato and Tomato soup (made with water, not milk) and crunched up cracker.

Portion control seems to be important too for me. Small meals more often. I used to eat the same amount as my 6'2" hubby ... those days are gone even tho the appetite is still there
Reply by lottagelady, on Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:20 pm
At the moment Beatrice most of the time I feel so tired and nauseous and still have this yakky taste in my mouth, that I really cannot be bothered to eat properly or cook .... nothing is really working for me.....

Tonight though I did have a craving for something cheesy so knocked up one of my very cheesy quiches which was lovely at the time, but is not so great now!

Sorry - just can't think - I do most things but nuts and corn - really don't like the sound of your soup, think it would just go through me!
Reply by beatrice, on Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:01 am
Poor you! I have to have a foot in the grave before my appetite goes .

I'm liking my output on the watery side -- the nightmare of the hospital blockage will never leave me.

Find that alternating meals that go thru fast with others (like potato or rise) that stay round for a bit feels good.

Hope you're feeling better soon, Rachel.
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Reply by Past Member, on Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:56 am
Nice idea Beatrice.

I am eating more fish these days.  It's easy to digest. I don't care for the pouch odor but in case I do gobble at least it's broken down.

However, the other day I wolfed down a HUGE French Dip Sandwich (no peppers and onions).  My friends were surprised that a gal as small as I am can eat THAT much.

I'm also a big fan of soft food especially chicken and dumplings, stews and such.

Lottagelady, there are times I also have no appetite too; my broth days. Luckily I don't mind that either. I don't like the headache from lack of eathing though.

EAT WELL!
Reply by gutenberg, on Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:18 pm
I wouldn't want to piss anybody off, BUT, I eat everything that I like and the only time I ran into trouble is when I cook up a large batch of chicken stir fry and chicken fried rice. The problem comes in (and yes, I should have known better) but at eleven at night a big dish of that wonderful stuff kept me awake all night, so now I try to squeeze it in before eight o'clock, no problem, live and learn, I even eat peanuts like they're going out of style, yummy. Ed
PS: I should add that this is only possible since one of the local surgeons rerouted parts of my intestines, man, but it was worth the misery I went through.
Reply by beatrice, on Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:33 pm
Ed - let me live vicariously through you ... you mean that you make up and eat a stir fry with all the veggies???

Lucky you!  I used to whip up batches of stirfry with lots of onions and garlic ... sometimes even with lean pork. Fried rice I can still do ... plain fried rice only (oil, bit of garlic, no onions or other veg). But just that 'frying' makes it taste so good compared to just steamed rice (which I also love).

What kind of 'rerouting' was done? I'm thinking you have no colon, just the small intestine? Is that right?
Reply by Rhian, on Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:53 pm
I have to say my diet has become very tedious, I can't eat most veg, I only eat potato and soft carrots, and fruit I can only tolerate peach slices out of a tin, or skinless apple, so I go without mostly. I cannot eat pasta, I am lactose intolerant, I like mushrooms but they come out the same as they went in! soup doesn't like me either, meat is ok if it's not chewy as I get blockages really quickly, fish I'm not keen on much. I'm trying to diet, though I'm not overweight, just feel it, (have anorexic tendencies). I tend to only eat at evening time, but any thrill of eating has gone. I have been on this low fibre diet since my colostomy 17 months ago through a major flare up of crohn's
Reply by beatrice, on Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:14 pm
Doesn't sound like much fun, Rhian. You probably know this already ... but just having one meal is really hard on your innards. Especially having that meal in the evening when you'll be laying down for most of the digesting time.

I love food so much (no anorexic tendancies here) that even when I could only eat jello and liquid soup, I concentrated and enjoyed every mouthful.

Like I say in every food post I miss my salads and veggies! ... but then I think "Cheesie Puffs still go down good". Love my salty cheesy snack - all is not lost.

Keep snacking,
Beatrice
Reply by beatrice, on Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:38 pm
Just adding to the list:

I've now had fish and chips twice ... both times I've enjoyed every bite and it digested very well. The odor when emptying is, of course, fishy ... but a small price to pay.

Plain cheese pizza is great too.

I keep trying my salad every couple of weeks ... it's like digesting gravel . Keep thinking my guts may accept it one day. Fingers crossed.
Reply by lottagelady, on Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:05 pm
I am probably dicing with death here but just recently (probably the last 4 weeks or so?) I have been eating my own home made 'Granola' with whole nuts, seeds, wheatgerm, oats and dried cranberries, blueberries, apricots and jumbo raisins! I toast the oats in the oven for a while with some organic honey and add all the other bits afterwards. I just eat it with with fresh fruit, usually a banana or strawberries, pear, grapes - whatever is cheap in my local shop! It fills me up for hours so tend not to snack, and if eaten before breakfast is 'through' before bedtime! Has really thickened things up bizarrely ......! Strange, as nuts have previously caused me huge problems - it isn't helping my other symptoms mind, fatigue, nasty taste in mouth etc, but hopefully someone will shortly be able to help me with these odd symptoms when I go and see several different consultants in London ...

Sorry you cannot manage salad yet Beatrice, I tend to eat that by choice over other veggies .... hope that you can manage some soon xxxxxxxxxx
Reply by gutenberg, on Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:02 pm
Hi Beatrice, trying to answer your question but I was still foggy when the doctor tried to explain what he did to me but he seemed pissed off at the way I was left after the last operation, I do remember something about rerouting but there was something else but I didn`t push as I was in a bit of misery at the time but nothing compared to what I was going through when I was getting blocked up and that damn tube they shove up your nose to keep the stomach drained and after a couple of years of that I was willing to go through anything and the Doc promised I`d not have to worry about that anymore and true to his word I`ve never had another blockage and never give a second thought to what I eat unless its something I never liked to start with, like cauliflower, and broccoli etc. Just the other day we had a big feed of corned beef and cabbage, man, what a delight. And for fathers day my daughter brought in a feed of lobster and scallops and yes, I pigged out on them. I`m slowly coming back to life trying to deal with a spinal injury and procrastinating about seeing another surgeon, soon I will probably have no choice but `till then i`ll keep on keeping on. Ed
Reply by Lobster, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:38 am
I pretty much eat anything but don't have much of an appetite. it used to be that if it didn't cover the whole plate then it wasn't a meal but now if it covered a side plate then that would be more than enough. about once a week i manage a 'big' meal. generally though i can't be arsed to make a meal so usually end up with a sandwich.
Reply by gutenberg, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:14 am
Rachel: ever since I developed a hernia right behind my stoma, I keep getting this damn coppery taste in my mouth, although I've never occasioned to eat copper the taste seems to be that, know what I mean?

Just gotta add, since strawberries are now coming in I really pig out on them, sugar and lots of coffee cream, 18% milk fat, real healthy I know but I can eat two quarts a day plus my regular meals which is only a sandwich cause I need room for the strawberries as the season is short I make the most of it, Ed
Reply by beatrice, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:35 am
Hi Ed. Glad you're enjoying the strawberries. Not to be too graphic or personal (heck why not ) but do the little 'strawberry seeds' come out whole in your output? I had a few strawberries and that is what happened to me ... and they kinda hurt the stoma.

Gosh -- aren't we all so different -- I find it amazing that an ileostomy can vary so much for different people.

All the best, Beatrice.
Reply by gutenberg, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:06 pm
Well Beatrice I never noticed passing any seeds the only thing that shows up is when I do a stir fry and I see the red and green pepper skins and also the snow peas, something like those long lasting pills that seemed to pass right through me and never did have any reduction in pain from them so we don't use them anymore. The worst scare I've had was after eating almost a can of baby beets, damn but I thought I was going to die when I seen all that red and then I remembered what I had ate, what a relief, I was getting ready to go to emergency until I remembered. almost scared the sh*t outta me. LOL, Ed
Reply by beatrice, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:46 pm
LOL - I know what you mean about the 'red - my guts are bleeding'. I had the same thought when i first drank a tin of V8 juice.

So with seeing the pepper skins, snowpeas, etc ... you just see the stuff ... no discomfort?
Reply by lottagelady, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:03 pm
[quote="gutenberg"]Rachel: ever since I developed a hernia right behind my stoma, I keep getting this damn coppery taste in my mouth, although I've never occasioned to eat copper the taste seems to be that, know what I mean?



Ed, I still got the taste too - not metallic though, just rotten and horrible ... seems to get much worse with some foods too .... made myself a pasta bake the other day, took one mouthful and threw it away as it just tasted so disgusting and made a sandwich ....

So glad you are enjoying the strawberry season - we can get them nearly all year round here nowadays, mind you they are probably full of chemicals or are irradiated or something horrid!
PS: my strawberry seeds don't come out whole, but the sunflower/pumpkin ones often do! xxxxxx
Reply by gutenberg, on Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:30 pm
                                 
beatrice wrote:
LOL - I know what you mean about the 'red - my guts are bleeding'. I had the same thought when i first drank a tin of V8 juice.

So with seeing the pepper skins, snowpeas, etc ... you just see the stuff ... no discomfort?

Beatrice: nope, can't ever recall having any discomfort from anything I've ever eaten, one of the few things in life I can be grateful for. Ed
Reply by groovyheaven, on Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:39 pm
Hi! Was just browsing and saw this! How is beef for you? A bit of a random question, but ever since my op 3 years ago beef has been a no-no! It just causes immense pain and my stoma to give a high output in a very short space of time Sad i don't particularal mind, but it kinda affects my family who rarely seem to eat beef anymore because my mum will have to buy a separate mealfor me. Other than that i can eat most foods apart from fish, spices and fiberous (?) type veg like cabbage Smile But yeah if I eat a large meal or too much a can't stop going!! xx
Reply by beatrice, on Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:32 pm
Beef is ok, if I have very small amounts. For ground beef: a small (couple tablespoons) ground up amount in meat pasta sauce, or about 1/2 a small beef patty or a 1.5" piece of steak med rare.

I just started the beef about 2 months ago and have worked out that as long as I chew well and don't exceed the above amounts by too much, everything processes ok. I can tell if I've had too much ... output doesn't change, but I get gut cramps/ache.

Yeah, I know about the separate meal thing ... I do one for hubby and then modify it for me, or do something separate for me.

There are lots of lucky peeps on this forum who can eat almost anything.

Still trying to introduce additional foods to see how I respond now that I'm a year post op. Glad to say that the canned mix of carrots/peas can now go on the Goes Down Good list .

Still keeping my fingers crossed for lettuce/salads one day ....

All the best!
Reply by groovyheaven, on Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:39 pm
Ahh thanks, I'll have to try the recipe sometime!

I guess I don't mind not being able to eat the certain foods, but I think it's most annoying as I'm 18 and when I go round my mates houses or we go out etc that when it becomes a bit inconvieniant!

I haven't really tried alcohol either, I don't know if that would affect me at all!

I have to say over the last day or so I have felt really really ill and I have no appetite - almost like I felt after my operations and you're not allowed to eat :S But I think that is to do with my hernia I hope not though :S

I imagine lettuce will be ok when you try it, but how about iceberg as I don't think it's as bad as say a 'floppy' lettuce and also how about like shredding it? Might make it easier to digest Smile

xxxxx
Reply by bes0642, on Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:32 pm
gutenberg
I had the heck scared out of me as well after eating cherry jello.
I thought I was bleeding as well until I remembered eating the jello. Have you ever noticed mushrooms don't even slow down. They just shoot straight thru. Ha!
Bob
Reply by budd002, on Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:14 am
I have discovered that cooked egg noodles with a bit of garlic butter tossed in digests rather easily and is very filling! I also experiment  with some sort of meat to put on top and cover in a bit of gravy. Like a stroganof sort of. The last batch I used meatballs with gravy. I loved it, filled my belly and my kids asked for seconds.
Of course there is the stand by's which are now staples in my house. Pudding, yogurt, ice cream, all lactose free. Pisses my kids off that I get to eat jell-o and pudding for dinner sometimes and they get real food. However it may seem great to them, but they wouldn't want to live on the stuff. I love it and all but can't do it day after day meal after meal. I need MEAT! I love bbq anything! I can do some veggies but they have to be cooked really well and really soft and yes I will get the gas and sometimes the pain but I do it to myself and know I will pay for it later. I also LOVE popcorn and try not to gorge too much on it except when I go to the theatre but how can you not when they offer free refills? I love cream soups and pea soup, a good hearty soup that sticks to your ribs. Eggs are good as well as fish which I have just recently been craving. Guess it's the steroids kicking in for cravings.
I try to eat whatever I want but there are things I just can't do anymore. like raw veggies, I do indulge in cucumber and the odd Caesar salad and chew chew chew things seem to come out ok if I do that. I was never really a big rice fan except when I order Chinese food, they just make it taste so much better than anything I can make.
Reply by beatrice, on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:23 pm
Meat! I'm with you, Budd ... a few days without it and I'm ready to eat the dog ! I find that any meat done in the slow-cooker comes out very tender. Last night we had chicken done that way. Yum. I still don't eat alot of meat at one meal ... maybe a small thigh or part of a breast.

And guess what ... I had about 1/2 cup of romaine lettuce leaves last night too! First time in over a year and so far all is well. I chew, chew, chewed those leaves till they were green mush but it was worth it.

Keeping my fingers crossed this is just the beginning of eating salads again.   I have to change something in my diet -- just putting on way too much weight and feeling slow and energyless.

p.s. popcorn -- really? Do you spit out the little semi-popped hard pieces or do you 'see' them later in the bathroom?
Reply by tdbm, on Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:16 am
                                 
groovyheaven wrote:


I imagine lettuce will be ok when you try it, but how about iceberg as I don't think it's as bad as say a 'floppy' lettuce and also how about like shredding it? Might make it easier to digest Smile

xxxxx



I have full dentures which need replacing. So chewing on raw veggies and salads can be uncomfortable, and doesn't really do the job all that well. Unless I am in the mood to chew chew chew, I have tried this...I make a huge salad because we love a lot of salad. Hubby takes his 2 or 3 big helpings, and I put the rest in the food processor - along with the dressing. I pulse it a few times and let it become almost like a pesto or sort of like a fine coleslaw. It literally chews it up for me. I still "chew" it, but most of the work is done except for mixing with saliva which is an important first step in digestion (especially for starches, but it must be useful in other ways as well.) The tastes blend really well and I have no problems with teeth or with undigested salad in the output.
Reply by tdbm, on Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:30 am
I also noticed how much less processed my food is when it appears in the bag. I'm getting all colors of the rainbow. It makes me wonder how much nutrition I am absorbing. I got the bag during surgery in February and things are just starting to get under control now after a few weeks of radiation and the fun side effects from that.   I haven't had any B12 shots yet and they say my iron is low. My GP says that there are likely to be absorption issues with other nutrients as well.

So how can we stay healthy even if we are able to "stomach" more nutritious foods as time goes on, when most of  the foods they say are best for preventing cancer are problematic for the stoma! The reason for my surgery in the first place was to get rid of cancer! AND most of the foods we are told to eat to prevent problems with the stoma are the biggest no-nos for causing obesity and heart disease!

Frustrating, but if it's a choice between stoma comfort and convenience and avoiding more cancer and possible heart disease etc. (if possible), I guess I'll choose to suffer some discomfort and inconvenience (as much as possible).
Reply by smileafayce, on Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:49 pm
I'm actually able to eat virtually whatever I want. However, I stay away from foods that are too spicy and I eat a lot of small meals as opposed to a few large meals. Potatoes without skins are the best! I can eat french fries all day . Eating too much results in a bloated stomach, and that sucks. Oh, I also stay away from chowing down on too many apples with the skin on.
Reply by Monsieur Le President, on Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:56 pm
Why not try everything like you would have done prior to surgery.
Fish makes me smell
Too much booze makes me liquid
Fresh coconut blocked me up & I had a trip to the Drs. So never again.
Curries make me gurgle.
Peas pass through ( as does sweetcorn ).
Cauliflower makes me inflate ( How romantic floating away on a cauliflower cloud ! )
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