Hi All, I use to shower all the time, without the bag on, and didn't really care if " out put: went down the drain.. But I stopped doing that ( I leave my wafer and appliance on) because t he soap, or body wash, often left a film on my skin which interfered with the adhesion of my wafer ( I use convatec 2 piece) . I stopped taking b aths for t he same reason .....the soapy hot water penetrated the wafer...an d softened the skin underneath .. Not a secure feeling... So now, when I shower, I start with t he pouch on , shampoo, and soap up.. and since off.. If I really want to " wash the skin around the stoma, I take off the pouch while in the shower....and just use the hot water.....no soap, or moisurized cleansers.. Just a personal preferance... Ironically....I have no problem at t he beach/ or pool ( cold water) or in a hot tub.....no soap... Best of luck to all.. Marsha