Exploring Coloplast Sensura Mio Pouches for Ileostomy

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Rancher
Dec 06, 2024 2:19 am

Good evening everyone.   Doing more looking into Coloplast pouches last night and found out they have a specific pouch for ileostomies. They have it in both Flex fit and click.  PN 12243 and 11443 and a couple others.

It apparently has a Narrower output drain and a filter specifically for ileostomies.  I have samples coming to try out.  Anybody ever try these or heard of them before? First time I heard about these.

Thanks 

berylworrall
Dec 06, 2024 3:10 am

I tried them, I just do not like the self adhesive closing system on any pouches. I have a high output ileostomy and found pouches with the "velcro" type closure system difficult to empty - not meaning to be graphic, the volume of the output, the length of the pouch and trying to get the closure system out of the way was just a nightmare for me.  I like to empty the pouch while sitting on the toilet so perhaps this impacted my experience.

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Rancher
Dec 06, 2024 3:13 am

How did the filter work?  I am basically using the same bag but it looks like the output drain is narrower on these ones and the filter is supposed to be different 

Past Member
Dec 06, 2024 4:58 am

I use coloplast sensura mio. And I like the Velcro closure. I also like that it's hard plastic when you go to empty and you flip part of it over when you go to close the bag so it covers the opening before you roll and then Velcro it. They have ones with and without filter. I use without filter. I don't like the filter on these bags 

Rancher
Dec 06, 2024 5:07 am

Thanks, Beth, but they make two different Sensura Mios, one specifically for ileostomies, which has a narrower drain and a different filter. I don't know what the difference is, but I ordered samples today.

 

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Past Member
Dec 06, 2024 5:41 am

I use the ileostomy ones; I have since day one of having my ileostomy. If the customer rep that sends out samples does their job right, they are supposed to send you the ostomy bags based on what type of ostomy you have. Lol, I am fully aware of the filter.

They have a Sensura line which is the tanish color and a Sensura Mio. The Sensura Mio are the grey bags.

Rancher
Dec 06, 2024 2:26 pm

Interesting,  every sample I asked for they didn't send out an ileostomy pouch.  Thanks for the reply.😁😁.  

My learning curve is starting to get better.

Past Member
Dec 06, 2024 3:19 pm

What did they send you?

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Dec 06, 2024 7:02 pm

Hi, let us know how they work for you.

Rancher
Dec 06, 2024 10:41 pm

I haven't got it yet, but PN is 12243.  Right now I am using a 12272

warrior
Dec 07, 2024 7:45 pm

The Mio Click is revolutionary in my opinion. I have been using the 11472 pouch with the recent Adapt O Ring 8805 Hollister.

Today, after 9 days of wear time, I am impressed with the sealing. I replaced everything as per bag change.

Last month, I suffered from weeping skin around the stoma that cleared

up with medication: topical

nystatin.

I will look into your suggestion of this ileostomy appliance you say is new for us ileos.

The thing is, what works, you keep.

This setup, for me, works. Nine days is a record for any ileo. The Adapt ring showed a minor breach, but it really stuck to the skin and bag well.

warrior
Dec 07, 2024 7:48 pm

You were doing something wrong with your empty. I know that volume is huge. You are dumping into the toilet, I assume. I dump into a container. It's much easier on the knees, and you can control the dump outpouring by tilting the container, not head-on.

 

Rancher
Dec 07, 2024 8:12 pm

Wow 9 days thats amazing.  Flat wafer or convex?  

It doesn't look like these bags are new, I just found them in their catalogue.  You are using the 11472 pouch.  The ileo bag  is 11473.

warrior
Dec 07, 2024 8:32 pm

Flat flange. Yes.

2 piece. My bag p/n is 11472.

The flange is p/n 6218513. I can't find the box. This number is off the invoice I have showing.

$235.20 4 belt hole flange.

I can't upload the bag box but placed the photo in my profile for you. Will delete after you see it. But that's the bag. The flange box is missing.

Rancher
Dec 07, 2024 9:32 pm

 


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Rancher
Dec 07, 2024 9:36 pm

Yup, saw your picture.  Here is a pic of the Coloplast catalogue showing pouch pn's.  Like I said, I definitely don't know what the difference is with the ileo filter...

But I will find out when I finally get it

 

warrior
Dec 07, 2024 11:14 pm

Cool photo. Yes, let us know what you find out. A bag made specifically for ileostomies? I don't know. Sounds like a sales pitch if it costs more.

To me, it's not the bag that counts, it's the sealing effort.

There is a perfect combination out there for fewer skin issues, better adhesion, more wear time.

Some members have that perfection. Others are hoping for it.

Time. Patience. Experiment.

This will achieve the goal.

This week... ha ha... I think I have the perfect combo... the sealing gods are watching over me.

Next week? Who knows?

Rancher
Jan 05, 2025 9:06 pm

Well, I have been trying these ileostomy bags out by Coloplast for the last week and a half.

The outlet is narrower, and the prefilter only has 2 pinholes in it instead of a multitude of pinholes. There are no Velcro buttons to hold the outlet flap open, but once I got used to it, it was okay. The bag would seem to balloon a little below the prefilter, but not a lot. I don't know if this was me or if the pouches were working better than the regular Sensura Mio. Anyway, I will be ordering some up next go around.

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