This topic is about using mineral oil and other lubricants to improve the performance of Hollister two-piece ostomy bags. The main focus is on how these lubricants can help with the ease of output and any potential issues they might cause. Here are some insights and advice shared by others:

- The poster has found that mineral oil helps with output sliding down the pouch but is concerned about potential problems and seeks alternative recommendations.

- Pam spray and vegetable oil were initially helpful but lost effectiveness higher up in the pouch. Mineral oil stays in place longer but can seep through the tail closure.

- A test of three lubricants on non-stick plastic showed:
1. Hollister Adapt Lubricating Deodorant stayed put against gravity.
2. Mineral oil ran slowly.
3. Coloplast Brava Lubricant ran fastest and even shrank back after spreading.

- Helpful bag management tips include crinkling the clear Hollister pouch to reduce stiffness, keeping a little air in the bag, covering the filter to retain air, and working lubricant around the filter.

- After 4-5 days, mineral oil seems to "melt" the barrier ring, unlike Adapt. This might indicate it's time to change the wafer.

- A question raised is how to carry or store mineral oil without leakage.

Advice and insights from others include:

- General anti-pancaking tips:
1. Keep some air in the pouch to prevent a vacuum.
2. Light oils like baby, cooking, or mineral oil can help output drop when rubbed around the pouch wall.

- Mineral oil:
1. Used by many without issues; some have had it recommended by healthcare professionals.
2. Technique: Pour a small amount in the night before and leave the pouch flat to spread the oil evenly.
3. Effective for 3-4 days; with a Coloplast SenSura Mio setup, it can support 7-8 days of wear.
4. Downside: Leaves an oil slick in toilets, so some avoid using it when visiting others.
5. Cost-effective, with options like Up & Up Mineral Oil available at Target for $1.99.

- Baby oil:
1. Provides lubrication and deodorizing; travel-size bottles are airline-friendly.
2. Scent can be noticeable; consider unscented versions or using less.

- Cooking oils:
1. Regular vegetable oil applied with an eye-dropper works for some.
2. Sunflower oil is popular in Spain due to its low cost.

- Non-stick cooking spray (Pam):
1. Inexpensive and easy to apply, with several users reporting good results.

- Hollister Adapt Lubricating Deodorant:
1. Controls odor and resists gravity better than mineral oil while still lubricating.

- Coloplast Brava Lubricating Deodorant:
1. Least resistant to gravity in tests and tends to run.

- Petroleum jelly (Vaseline):
1. Applied inside after the appliance is on, effective for 3-day wear even with an active lifestyle.
2. Does not melt or pool excessively.

- Practical handling tips:
1. Transfer mineral oil into an empty Adapt bottle for easy use; avoid large bottles to prevent leakage.
2. Crinkling new pouches, maintaining adequate dietary fiber and hydration, and keeping lubricant near the filter help minimize pancaking.
3. Barrier ring "melting" after several days may be due to mineral oil or sweat; use it as a reminder to change the baseplate if leakage risk increases.