This topic is about using Hollister Adapt Lubricating Deodorant and its effects on rinsing, seal integrity, odor control, and possible alternatives. The discussion revolves around a user who switched to Adapt due to a delay in their usual product, Hollister M9 Odor Eliminator Drops. They have some concerns and questions about using Adapt, and here are some insights and advice shared by others:

- The user is concerned about whether it is safe to rinse the pouch with water when Adapt is inside and if this or the lubricant might compromise the wafer/barrier seal.

- They wonder if the emollients in Adapt and repeated cold-water rinses might be affecting their barrier ring, causing it to "melt" and reducing wear time.

- Since their insurance does not cover deodorant, they are looking for cheaper odor-control options. They have tried hydrogen peroxide, which worked but caused nausea, and are worried about using baking soda due to potential absorption through the stoma.

- The user reports that Adapt did not help with pancaking or odor during their use and has received only a limited supply of M9, which they need to ration.

- An ostomy nurse advised that both water and liquid ileostomy output can degrade barrier rings, and the user notices ring fragments inside the pouch, prompting them to rinse at every emptying.

- They suspect Hollister may have changed the ring formulation, as they need to change their appliance daily.

Advice and insights from others include:

1. Rinsing & Seal Integrity
- Many users rinse with 150–300 ml of water several times a day without experiencing seal failure, suggesting that the warning about water loosening the seal might be an urban myth if the wafer is applied correctly.
- After rinsing, it's important to add fresh Adapt or M9, as a teaspoon (the recommended dose) is too small to affect the seal.

2. Product Performance & Alternatives
- Some users find better odor control with Hollister M9 than with Adapt, and Adapt's lubricant does not help with pancaking for everyone.
- Tic Tacs can be used to stretch limited insurance coverage or out-of-pocket supplies.
- Baby oil, either plain or scented, can be used sparingly as a lubricant/deodorant substitute.
- Avoid using hydrogen peroxide inside the pouch, as it is a strong irritant and bleaching agent.
- Baking soda is mentioned, but most users do not worry about systemic absorption through the stoma.

3. Insurance & Cost Tips
- Medicare typically covers only one bottle of lubricant per month, so using supplements like Tic Tacs can help stay within the allowance.
- When paying cash, shopping around or mixing cheaper substitutes between uses can extend the use of expensive products like M9.

4. Barrier Ring "Melting"
- Water, output, Adapt, or any liquid can erode hydrocolloid rings over time. However, users who change appliances every 7 days report no leaks even with heavy rinsing, suggesting that overall fit and seal quality matter more than occasional erosion.

5. Ingredient Safety
- One member reviewed Hollister M9 ingredients and found nothing concerning, reminding users to check labels if worried about absorption or irritation.