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Do You Guys Wear A Seat Belt or Not?

Posted by w30bob, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:00 am

Hi Gang,

  Do you wear your seatbelt when driving?  Due to my high output I never wore my belt......but after getting pulled over a zillion times I now wear it.  Since I don't want it over my stoma I pull the shoulder strap out and run it over my right knee (instead of over my stoma).  Every cop who has pulled me over always appologized profusely and got me back on my way quickly after I lifted my shirt and showed them why I wasn't wearing my belt.  But being pulled over was getting to be a pain in the arse, so now I loop my belt over my knee and from their vantage point they see the shoulder belt being worn and don't pull me over anymore. I know they make a stoma guard, but I don't want to wear any more crap. So just wondering what you guys do.

Thanks,

Bob

Reply by Bill, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:54 am

Hello Bob. 

The simple answer is that I always wear a seatbelt in the car. However, I do act as an escort on a 'welfare bus'  where a few or our passengers have similar problems to those of ostomates and do not want to wear seatbelts. 

Unfortunately, for insurance purposes there is a necessity for everyone on the buses to wear seatbelts at all times. In these cases we have come up with several ways to make the WEARING OF SEATBELTS MORE COMFORTABLE.

1) A simple clothes peg, clipped on the belt at the place where it comes from the shoulder pivot, stops the belt from gradually getting tighter. ( The belt will still work if there was an accident.) 

2) We requested that any new buses were designed differently, so that this problem could be overcome. Our new buses have the option of having the seabelts hang from a point above the person so that they do not press on the shoulder or the abdomen. 

3) In the case of wheelchair users, the belts can be fixed so that they also hang from above the passenger, rather than over the shoulder. also the design is completely different and much more comfortable. 

4) For extra large passengers, we have extentions to the fixing point near the seat. these have the effect of moving that point further forward at the lower abdomen, thereby relieving the pressure on that area.

5) I have bought  foam covers for seatbelts, (available from motoring stores) which also takes the pressure off the body by spreading the load and making the belts more comfortable to wear.

6) This concept could easily be extended to incorporate a stoma guard into/upon a seatbelt so that the passenger would not be wearing it on their person and would only have a need for it when they are wearing the seatbelt.

7) For cars, there are a variety of alternative arrangements for replacing the conventional (cheap) seatbelts. (They are usually fitted on the more expensive vehicles.) However, we have a voluntary organisation of engineers in our area who will take up the challenge of making the lives of disabled people more comfortable and manageable. I am sure that if someone presented them with a problem such as this, they would be only to happy to address their collective minds and skills to overcoming the problem.

(My own suggestion for protecting stomas, would be to use the concept of an extention to the lower fixing point and design it that so that it is a stiff curve to the shape of the body at the area of the lower abdomen where the stoma is situated. The shoulder strap would then be fixed at a point above the stoma and the device should act as a stoma guard.) I think that my suggestion would need to be tailor-made for each person, as stomas tend to be in different places. However, once the principle is established, this should not be too difficult for a mechanic or engineer to make.   

I hope my comments are helpful in finding solutions to  what should be a relatively simple (mechanical) problem.

Best wishes

Bill 

 

Reply by honestabe, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:46 am

Never have, never will!

Reply by ron in mich, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:12 am

Hi Bob initially i had a letter from my pcp saying i had an ostomy but was told by a cop that i would need to renew it every year so now i just wear the belt and dont bother asking for a letter every year.

Reply by Tickpol , on Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:27 am

Since most of the time I'm wearing my shirt untucked I just put the belt under my pouch.  Mind you I don't drive for Uber or anything like that so there's no one there to see it.

 

In the event of an accident I trust that my pouch will do fine since it is after all largely an air bag. LOL

 

Dave

Reply by w30bob, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:30 am

Thanks for the replies guys. 

  Ron.......my doc told me she could get me handicap plates, but I'm having none of that.  It got to the point where the same cop would sit on the side of the road on the way to work checking for seatbelts everyday and he'd just wave to me each morning as I passed without wearing my seat belt.  Now the guards at the Navy base I work at always see the strap routed over my knee when I show them my ID and no one has ever asked or commented on why I'm doing that.  Seems a bit odd in this day of "see something weird, say something"..........but no one does. 

  Abe........you rock brother......stick it to da' man!  I hate friggin' seat belts.  Almost (but not quite) as stupid as making you wear a helmet to ride a bike.  We like to talk about how much Freedom we have here in the US, but we don't even have the freedom to be stupid or take our own life.  Almost makes me want to move to Italy, but not quite.  The pizza there really sucks. Really.

 Bill.........insightful as usual.  I'd considered a modifed seat belt or harness, but I'm too damn lazy.  Besides, it's always nice to meet your local police.  Nice fellows they usually are.

regards,

bob

 

Reply by panther, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:56 am

Yes compulsory in the UK and after worrking in a garage most of my life and seeing cars after accidents and serious injuries and deaths from not wearing a belt  I would never drive or get in a car without wearing a seatbelt I do have a Jejunostomy so it's a very high output and watery but my life is to precious too, if I have a leak and rarely do so be it I choose a leak over death everytime 

Reply by newyorktorque, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:06 am

It seems like the seatbelt always lands right over the stoma.  I can wear the slanted / diagonal strap no problem.  As for the lap belt, that sits behind me.  I did see something online (maybe ebay?) where they now have something to place over the belt to accommodate ostomates.

Reply by Anoniem18, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:28 pm

I use a clip on the stomach belt which allows me to clip the shoulder belt away from the stoma, works great. 
The clip can slide on the stomach belt left or right and the shoulder belt can clip on the separate piece that has an opening facing downwards.
Ed Maste

 

Reply by scorsby, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:40 pm

Hi.

Why not get irrigating (if you can) then you don't have to worry about where the seat belt goes.

John 

Reply by Sueaxe, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:20 pm

So you would prefer to risk possible injury or death and the amount of carnage, ie traffic disruption, wastage of emergency services, trauma staff, bed space et.c all because you choose to wear your belt incorrectly.

I guess saving your life with one operation aint good enough for you.

It would be so funny to watch an internal dash cam pic as your airbag went off and you were restrained incorrectly, thro' personal choice.

Look up air bag accidents, just carry on regardless.

Bit sad

Take it easy Bob, but take it.

S

Reply by Charley, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:46 pm

Hi Bob,

I wear a seat belt whenever I'm on the road.  I also wear a plastic Stoma Guard all day long.  I'm told that a severely damaged stoma can bleed you out in a hurry.  The guard costs about $50 and is well worth the price for the peace of mind, and it'll keep the cops off your back when you wear your belt correctly.

Reply by newyorktorque, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:06 pm

 

Jejunostomates Unite!

 

 

 

 

 

panther wrote:

Yes compulsory in the UK and after worrking in a garage most of my life and seeing cars after accidents and serious injuries and deaths from not wearing a belt  I would never drive or get in a car without wearing a seatbelt I do have a Jejunostomy so it's a very high output and watery but my life is to precious too, if I have a leak and rarely do so be it I choose a leak over death everytime 



Reply by bryancohnracing, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:46 pm

I always wear seat belts. I also race cars for a hobby and wear 5 and 6 point seat belts.

You should be wearing the lap belt of your seat belt low and snug over your PELVIS at your beltline, not your stomach. This is key to the seat belt working properly. Worn over the stomach will cause harm to your internal organs.

 

Reply by Newbie Dana, on Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:48 pm

Anoniem, we used to have clips like that for seat belts for the kids when they were small, and out of the car seat, but still too small to comfortably wear the regular seat belts. Worked really great for them - also works terrific for adjusting the belt away from the stoma! I believe it is also marketed for pregnant women to keep the belt below the developing baby.

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