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Air and foam ? How and why do I have it in my bag?

Posted by ~traci~, on Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:40 am
I have had alot of foam and air in my bag? Does anyone know why and how to eliminate this problems? (I have a filter on the pouch) Thanks
Reply by Bill, on Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:52 am
Hello traci,
I have absolutely no idea why you should have foam and air in the bag. But I'm really glad you shared it with us as it poses a fascinating question which surely should ellicit some humour from those who are good at such things.
  Whenever I have 'different' things appear, my response is not to worry about it but recall the many years when it would have all disappeared without a 'trace' down the loo.   Sometimes what you don't know about you don't worry about!
Best wishes  Bill
Reply by mooza, on Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:55 pm
Well air -Gas still gets in even with the filter could the foamy stuff just be bubbly water coming from the stoma ....try no more gas or hostoma liquid or hollister 85000 deodorant i find it useful xx cheers............oh codeine can help with the out put too but again can make you addicted and drowsy but hey !!!!!!!!!!! p.s. i use eackin gel fantastic for absorbing all that bloody awful water weird we need to drink more fluids but loose so much .
Reply by ZACK, on Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:23 pm
This is ZACK from Michigan, USA.  Had my ileo since 1977.  Found air and/or foam was always from eating something to cause gas.  Check your diet; for me any cruciferious vegetables such as brocolli, cauliflower, cabbage are sure to make gas and maybe foam as well.  Some spices do the same for me; like GARLIC.
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Reply by g, on Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:46 pm
hey huni do u drink alot of fizzy drinks ?? i find i get this problem if i do so tend to avoid them as much as i can
hope this helps
g x
Reply by ccurtains, on Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:20 pm
This is generally due to what you are eating or drinking.  Spicy foods will create a lot of gas.
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Reply by Past Member, on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:39 am
I like air in my bag!

I Had eliostomy last month. I have been using 2 piece bags which was creating air. I didn't know anything else so just thought this is the way it is. Then, two days ago, I changed to one piece bag and this one create no air and I don't like it. When there is no air, stool stay around stoma instead of falling down to the bottom of the bag. I am freaking out because it might leak and damage my skin. I am rinsing a bag everytime I empty it. I try to put air but a few hours later it become flat without air.

I need advice, please. How do you deal with this situation?
Why you don't like air? Since I got a surgery, I haven't been out. I am home all the time wearing pyjama so hiding bag is not a issue yet. I suppose when there is air in a bag, it difficult to hide under clothes? But, I can't stand stool collecting around stoma!
I use clear bag so I can see everything very well and just feel dirty when stool is not falling down to the bottom.

I am using clear bags because that what the hospital provided me. I have not bought bags on my own yet. Hospital gave me two different kind of clear bags, two piece and one piece.

To answer you question from my experience, it might be a kind of bags you are using. My diest has not been changed.

I would like to meet femal in Toronto area for ostomy friendship.

Thank you.
Reply by kinder, on Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:20 pm
The one piece bags are great and you just need a lubricant to move the waste to the bottom. There is a product called Adapt Lubricant & Deoderant that works really well. Use that with Hollister M-9 and the whole thing is pretty bearable!!
Nanc
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Reply by Past Member, on Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 pm
Thank you for this advice so much! I looked into their web site. This product also prevent static and sticking! That's exactly what I need! I will buy it.
It says that put 1 table spoon every time you empty it and rub. It is ok to rub first time when bag is new but rub after that.... mixing with your stool...
Reply by ilsn2u, on Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:16 pm
Try to remember that the skin of your your stoma used to be INSIDE of you and was ALWAYS full of poop.  The only problem is if the poop is on the skin of your abdomen...that can cause itching, rashes, etc.--that's not good.

As to the air thing--that's gas, a normal human output!  Take a "Gas-X" tablet and that will go away.
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Reply by Past Member, on Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:19 pm
I understand that stoma can be covered by stool and it's ok. I am afraid when stoma is covered by stool instead of dropping to the bottom of the bag, stool can go between stoma and fringe. Especially when stool is watery, stool can easily get there and damage my skin.
When there is no air in the bag, stool don't drop to the bottom. I tried lubricant but if bag is stick to stoma, stool don't move down!

Why the fringe get white ring? Is acid eating away fringe and adhesive? Is it because fringe is soaked due to stool being there too long?
During the day, I sit up light and I put air in the bag so that stool drop but when I sleep, stool is always stay near stoma...

Nurse told me to change the fringe every 5-7 days. Is it because after that fringe will destroyed and starts to leak? Or is it because of skin around the stoma needs to be cleaned??
Can fringe stay longer like 10-14 days?

Also, my scar is very itchy. What can I put, any cream or oil?? Will it go away? It's been about 5 weeks from op.

Thank you.
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