Trouble with Output Sticking at Top of Bag - Need Advice

It seems like every time I have output, it sticks up around the top of the bag and I have to push it through the bag. Any advice?

Much appreciated!

Hey there,

Best advice from experience with pancaking is to keep a little air in the bag. If you use a bag with a filter, you can put a filter sticker over it.

Hollister makes a lube, no. 78501. Give them a call, ask for a sample.

Thank you. I often wondered what people meant by pancaking. Now I know!

Thank you. I will give it a try.

Little air in the bag, lubricant. Rinse your bag out when you empty it if you use drainable. Drink more fluids. Pushing it down doesn't really do much unless you can get it all to slide down, plus it feels weird. 😁

I get the same thing. My shirt bulge starts looking funky until I pinch the bag's plastic to force the widdle pancake downward. Then center the output so the bag is flatter. Stoma points toward my navel, so the bag always gets off-kilter.

I requested a sample of the lubricant from Hollister. We'll see how that does.

Thanks!

Agree with everyone regarding air in the bag, liquids, and lubricant. My husband had a really bad issue with pancaking.

Me too! I started using the Hollister Adapt lubricating deodorizer product. It comes in a larger bottle and a nice travel size as well. I use a ring seal as the hard plastic rings don't work with my elderly wrinkled belly (TMI). Anyways, I put some in the pouch and the area that touches the stoma before I attach the pouch. Be careful not to get the stuff on the seal or on the Velcro closure. You can use it after each empty.

I use the Hollister lube/deodorizer. Works well. I also put/rub some on the bag plastic area where my stoma goes. I also spread some around the sides of the flange area.

Thank you!

Thank you!

When you get it… pour it into the bag, close your bag up, then work the lubricant all over the inside of your bag. You'll know when it's coated all over the bag because the bag won't stick to itself anywhere and the inside of your bag will kind of look all bubbly and whitish in color. Just pouring it in and letting it go to the bottom of the bag will do nothing for getting it to help get your output off your stoma area. Work it around so the whole inside of the bag is coated with it.

Good point, AlexT.

M9 deodorizer drops just sit at the bottom of the bag.

Lube/deodorizer needs to be distributed throughout the bag, as you noted.

When you say close your bag up, what do you mean? Do I put it in after I cut the bag (I wear a one-piece)?

Sorry if these are silly questions, I just don't know what I am doing, still so new to this.

Thank you!

Hi Nini. Alex is talking about closing up the bottom of a drainable bag. After emptying and rinsing, you raise the drain (bottom) of the bag as high as possible and put the lube in. Then you can work it around in there to coat the whole bag.

If doing a bag change, you can put the lube in through the stoma opening before peeling the film off the adhesive part of the wafer. I use a two-piece system so I can unclick partially and let the gas out. One can also (carefully) add lube while detached.

There are no silly questions. Everyone needs to learn, and we are happy to help.

Thank you. This makes sense now. Much appreciated!

After you put everything on and you're all done, pour the lube in and work it around. You do not want any lube to accidentally get on your skin prior to getting it all attached/sealed.

Hi Nini, a little air in the bag has always helped me. Someone on the site advised me, and it really does help. Plus, I use the stickers over the filter so the air stays trapped. I use Adapt lubricant and add more each time I empty. On bag change, I add the lubricant and give the bag a rub to make sure it gets everywhere.

Have the same type of problem.

The nurse said the same thing, helps a bit but still a problem.