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Prolapse

Posted by Jules23, on Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:41 pm

Hi, just a quickie, I have a small prolapse caused by a coughing fit.. I heard that putting sugar, caster sugar on ostomy whilst lying down shrinks it enough to gently push it back ?

Has anyone heard of this or tried it ?

Thanks

Reply by Byrneoo, on Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:28 pm

I'm relieved my ileostomy approx 5 months ago. I wear a 7inch elasticated cloth band over my stoma mainly to try to prevent a hernia forming and so far it has worked. 

Ive eased off wearing it as it is tight but I've now started having my stoma prolapse nearly every time I don't use if I'm doing some work,i.e. Bending ,stretching,lifting etc. 

It comes out about 3 inches. Soon as I feel it through the bag, I take the bag off and lie down on the bed. I hold the stoma up so it's facing the ceiling and try to relax the tummy muscles. Make sure you have paper towels/ wipes as it will weep a watery liquid. It will eventually go back in itself. Mine can take 20 minutes or 70 minutes to go back in. You can massage the tummy area around the stoma,it may help but trying to push it in won't. Be patient it should go back in naturally. 

Reply by Jules23, on Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:24 pm
Byrneoo wrote:

I'm relieved my ileostomy approx 5 months ago. I wear a 7inch elasticated cloth band over my stoma mainly to try to prevent a hernia forming and so far it has worked. 

Ive eased off wearing it as it is tight but I've now started having my stoma prolapse nearly every time I don't use if I'm doing some work,i.e. Bending ,stretching,lifting etc. 

It comes out about 3 inches. Soon as I feel it through the bag, I take the bag off and lie down on the bed. I hold the stoma up so it's facing the ceiling and try to relax the tummy muscles. Make sure you have paper towels/ wipes as it will weep a watery liquid. It will eventually go back in itself. Mine can take 20 minutes or 70 minutes to go back in. You can massage the tummy area around the stoma,it may help but trying to push it in won't. Be patient it should go back in naturally. 


Thank you, have you heard about the sugar thing ?

Reply by Angelicamarie, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:06 am

Hi jules23, 

I had an experience with my stoma swelling, I was told by my surgeon to put a little sugar on the stoma.(Regular Sugar) It worked for me. 

In all honestly I would have never tried it, if not instructed by the surgeon.  Hope this helps!

 

Angelicamarie



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Reply by warrior, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:51 am

Hmm.sugar? How sweet it is..no..never heard of doing that. I do notice when changing wafter over the sink or laundry tub...i use the sprayer nozzle to clean stoma...warm water washes away the poop and the stoma retracts magically. Minw only come out about 3/4 to an inch..or more..but it will retract when warm using water. Neat trick.

Reply by Jules23, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:52 am
Angelicamarie wrote:

Hi jules23, 

I had an experience with my stoma swelling, I was told by my surgeon to put a little sugar on the stoma.(Regular Sugar) It worked for me. 

In all honestly Ii would have never tried it, if not instructed by the surgeon.  Hope this helps!

 

Angelicamarie


Thank you, I thought maybe I had read the threads wrong,  being new to all this I must admit I thought it was very odd. I haven't tried it yet.

Just the warm water and lying down bit... I was worried I wouldn't get my bag off as really swollen.. Not too bad now though.

I do feel a bit silly asking questions all the time, but determined this won't get the better of me..

Really odd things happening now, could just be coincidence but don't know yet.

Never had skin problems but I have now, upper back and chest pain, pain started for no reason in my foot yesterday and stopped me

In my tracks.. Bone pain ?? Omg could ask questions all day lol. Won't see my stoma nurse until next Friday, gp is as helpful as a chocolate tea pot.

And appointment for surgeon not until end of Feb.. Don't want to end up a nervous wreck....

Jules

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:48 am

Jules, 

If you have no other obvious health issues to cause all your pain, you may want to be tested for a few things that can cause wide spread pain. Chronic Pain syndrome, RA, Fibromyalgia, etc. I have Fibromyalgia and chronic  Pain Syndrome. Neither one is fun and I cannot take the meds to help with it. These diseases are often triggered when you have a physical or mental event. Mine started with a car wreck about 10 years ago. It could be from a surgery or any stressful situation. May be worthy to explore the possibility. If your GP is hopeless, go to a pain management specialist. 
Puppy

Reply by panther, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:57 am

Do you mean your stoma is swoollen or has it got longer suddenly? Yes you can use sugar on a swoollen stoma, swoollen is usually only very temporary I would just cut the hole in base bigger to fit round stoma.... but I wouldn't use sugar on a prolapsed stoma, I would speak to my stoma nurse about it to see if they thought it could be left as it is or needed to see a Dr

Reply by warrior, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:29 pm

chest pain is serious stuff Jules. Mine, two years ago was from a pulmonary embolisim. and yes they are an issue with IBD  people.  I too had trouble with my foot when i had the clot in knee. the pain was so bad i could not stand up. had to crawl around.. indeed.  had i waited any longer, the lung clot may have killed me. not to often one walks a way or crawls from a clot.  get checked.  that chocolate tea pot crack is a pisser. good luck.  and by the way, theres no such thing as a silly question.   we are here for any kind of questions.  and most questions likely wont be answered by a doctor.  so load up and fire away. you're getting top draw answers already. 

Reply by Jules23, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:09 pm
warrior wrote:

chest pain is serious stuff Jules. Mine, two years ago was from a pulmonary embolisim. and yes they are an issue with IBD  people.  I too had trouble with my foot when i had the clot in knee. the pain was so bad i could not stand up. had to crawl around.. indeed.  had i waited any longer, the lung clot may have killed me. not to often one walks a way or crawls from a clot.  get checked.  that chocolate tea pot crack is a pisser. good luck.  and by the way, theres no such thing as a silly question.   we are here for any kind of questions.  and most questions likely wont be answered by a doctor.  so load up and fire away. you're getting top draw answers already. 


Thanks, I have had central upper back pain for weeks, it radiates to the middle of my chest. Was rushed into hospital 2 weeks ago as Dr thought it was a clot on my lung, ct was clear ?? Still have the pain. Not so bad when I'm up and about, as soon as I lay down it hurtsI know I  Getting up is horrendous ! Trying to stay positive but found myself screaming inside..

 Everyone here is so kind and supportive I think without you all I would be bald now. ( pulling my hair out) thank you all so much for your help and advise.

Reply by warrior, on Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:08 pm

What position do u sleep in?  Im usually in fetal...left or right side and yea there is pain in morning when i do this. Only wayvto sleep on backvis with pillow under knees. 

Reply by honestabe, on Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:05 pm

Mine would prolapse 5”! Didn’t worry about for a year Finally had surgeon get it to about 3/4 “ l

Reply by Puppyluv56, on Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:04 am
Jules23 wrote:
warrior wrote:

chest pain is serious stuff Jules. Mine, two years ago was from a pulmonary embolisim. and yes they are an issue with IBD  people.  I too had trouble with my foot when i had the clot in knee. the pain was so bad i could not stand up. had to crawl around.. indeed.  had i waited any longer, the lung clot may have killed me. not to often one walks a way or crawls from a clot.  get checked.  that chocolate tea pot crack is a pisser. good luck.  and by the way, theres no such thing as a silly question.   we are here for any kind of questions.  and most questions likely wont be answered by a doctor.  so load up and fire away. you're getting top draw answers already. 


Thanks, I have had central upper back pain for weeks, it radiates to the middle of my chest. Was rushed into hospital 2 weeks ago as Dr thought it was a clot on my lung, ct was clear ?? Still have the pain. Not so bad when I'm up and about, as soon as I lay down it hurtsI know I  Getting up is horrendous ! Trying to stay positive but found myself screaming inside..

 Everyone here is so kind and supportive I think without you all I would be bald now. ( pulling my hair out) thank you all so much for your help and advise.

 I have that same thing, lots of pain when laying down or rolling over but fine once I am up and about. I am trying to sleep In my guest room bed that is an adjustable bed that has both head and foot adjustments. It has made laying down bearable but the bed is so old and the mattress is horrible so I just bit the bullet and ordered a sleep number bed with both head and foot adjustment too. Love rhat zero gravity position. It really does take all the pressure off of all the bones! Lol Cannot wait to get it. Will be delivered on Saturday! I am hoping that it will make a great difference! Sometime feel as if you never get any sleep from waking up so many times at night from pain. 
puppyluv

 

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