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Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:17 pm

So ... question. Has anyone ended up loosing their teeth due to malnutrition and malabsorption due to sickness ... many surgeries ... etc Due to their ileostomy ? 
Is this a common issue ?

Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:16 pm

Good question!  I am looking forward to all your replies. 

In the so-called 'good old days' , inmates in mental hospitals had all their teeth removed to prevent from them biting the staff. It perhaps puts a bit of malnutrition into perspective.

Best wishes

Bill

Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:38 pm

Yikes! I hope that doesn't happen very often! I've grown rather attached to my choppers.

 

Laurie

Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:42 pm
Bill wrote:

Good question!  I am looking forward to all your replies. 

In the so-called 'good old days' , inmates in mental hospitals had all their teeth removed to prevent from them biting the staff. It perhaps puts a bit of malnutrition into perspective.

Best wishes

Bill


All I can do is keep laughing at your comment Bill !!! I hope I don't turn mental ! 

Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:43 pm
Padfoot wrote:

Yikes! I hope that doesn't happen very often! I've grown rather attached to my choppers.

 

Laurie

Me too ...and chewing chewing ( that's for an ileostomy gal) would be hard to do 

Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:35 pm

I'm pleased to say No my teeth are the only thing left on my body that I don't have a problem with yet!.....I've had my ileostomy for over 30 years and about the same amount of surgries too.

I may be wrong I am sometimes well quite often really lol. I'm sure I remember reading that people with crohns disease can have problems with there teeth 

Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:22 pm

Yeah ...I didn't have Crohns ..I had a rare acute case of microscopic collegenous colitis. After 19 years of that and 2 yrs of pityaris rubra Polaris prior to the other crap and loosing almost all my organs you can live without ( I don't think they can take anything else) , I'm finding that my teeth are starting to deteriorate from the inside out . I really should have charged my drs for all the organs they've taken !! Several of my specialists wrote my cases up in journals ! Oh Joy , woopie ! 
I need to know though if teeth have fallen out on others with this non pooper thing ! I need this like I need a hole in my tush ! 
im glad it didn't happen to you Panther ...how could you hunt in your wild without your teeth ! LOL

Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:31 pm
Padfoot wrote:

Yikes! I hope that doesn't happen very often! I've grown rather attached to my choppers.

 

Laurie


I never thought of that, but in the last three years I have had seven teeth pulled. It has been shocking how fast cared for teeth could go south. Hmm.

Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:48 am

Well... I made my decision, today they are yanking my teeth out ! Too much pain and no need to endure more trouble again . I'll move on as always . 

Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:15 pm
Ritz wrote:

Well... I made my decision, today they are yanking my teeth out ! Too much pain and no need to endure more trouble again . I'll move on as always . 


Oh dear! Best of luck, Ritz! I hope your recovery goes well.

 

Laurie

Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:25 pm
Ritz wrote:

Yeah ...I didn't have Crohns ..I had a rare acute case of microscopic collegenous colitis. After 19 years of that and 2 yrs of pityaris rubra Polaris prior to the other crap and loosing almost all my organs you can live without ( I don't think they can take anything else) , I'm finding that my teeth are starting to deteriorate from the inside out . I really should have charged my drs for all the organs they've taken !! Several of my specialists wrote my cases up in journals ! Oh Joy , woopie ! 
I need to know though if teeth have fallen out on others with this non pooper thing ! I need this like I need a hole in my tush ! 
im glad it didn't happen to you Panther ...how could you hunt in your wild without your teeth ! LOL


Yo Ritz Crackers!  Man, you're just chock full of good news lately, eh?  Ok, so I'm thinking about your situation...........now both MCC and periodontal disease are considered chronic inflammatory diseases. Their pathogenesis is mediated by a complex interplay between a dysbiotic microbiota and the host immune-inflammatory response, and both are influenced by genetic and environmental factors. Right?  Ok, ok......I didn't write that last sentence......I stole it from online.......it just looked way too impressive to not use.  But here's my question..........since they're both auto-immune diseases.......don't the current standard autoimmune meds work for both?  What does your Doc say about this.........I'm curious.  

later,

bob

Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:30 pm
w30bob wrote:


Yo Ritz Crackers!  Man, you're just chock full of good news lately, eh?  Ok, so I'm thinking about your situation...........now both MCC and periodontal disease are considered chronic inflammatory diseases. Their pathogenesis is mediated by a complex interplay between a dysbiotic microbiota and the host immune-inflammatory response, and both are influenced by genetic and environmental factors. Right?  Ok, ok......I didn't write that last sentence......I stole it from online.......it just looked way too impressive to not use.  But here's my question..........since they're both auto-immune diseases.......don't the current standard autoimmune meds work for both?  What does your Doc say about this.........I'm curious.  

later,

bob

So Bob ..you are exactly right . I have a body full of autoimmune diseases... thank god, the PRP is still in remission . That was worse than loosing my large intestine, part of my small and everything associated with poop, quarantined 8 times with c diff. I had been shipped over the years to every major medical center, on every drug and humara and kemo and every drug to cure it ...but nothin . Sarcasm has brought me thu every day I like to consider myself the problem child , the one that does not conform to the society that should be . If anything , my history is interesting ! What do my drs say ... just keep on livin --- you're much better now that you used to be ! My ileostomy was the best thing I ever agreed to ...and I don't fart ! ( not that I did before 😱) .... I'm not an asshole anymore I'm a bag lady ! Life gets better I'm sure of it ...I'll make it happen ...Ritz

Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:15 pm
Ritz wrote:

So Bob ..you are exactly right . I have a body full of autoimmune diseases... thank god, the PRP is still in remission . That was worse than loosing my large intestine, part of my small and everything associated with poop, quarantined 8 times with c diff. I had been shipped over the years to every major medical center, on every drug and humara and kemo and every drug to cure it ...but nothin . Sarcasm has brought me thu every day I like to consider myself the problem child , the one that does not conform to the society that should be . If anything , my history is interesting ! What do my drs say ... just keep on livin --- you're much better now that you used to be ! My ileostomy was the best thing I ever agreed to ...and I don't fart ! ( not that I did before 😱) .... I'm not an asshole anymore I'm a bag lady ! Life gets better I'm sure of it ...I'll make it happen ...Ritz

Ritz...........imagine if everyone had YOUR attitude!  Wow, what a world it would be.  Problem children are always the most interesting.  Whenever I go see a new Doc and they've only read my file and not seen me in person........the first thing they say is......wow, you look good.  Based on what they read I assume they expect to see a dead man walking.  I bet you wow them the same way as well!  So despite them being clueless.......we're still here!  You've sure been thru a lot.....I know I'm impressed!  I guess there's a few of us out there that defy the odds......or are just give life the middle finger on a regular basis.......same thing I guess.  We all get to dead..........it's HOW we get there that defines us.  

As for farting........I think it's one of those things that's cute when we're young..........and becomes cute again when we're old..........and it's only taken seriously when we're in the middle.  My stoma's been more and more vocal lately, but I swear it's only at the quietest times when I'm either in a meeting or talking to someone one on one.  I can tell by the expression on their face when it happens that they're confused.  I just let 'em think about it while we continue our conversation. I often wonder if they ever figure it out? 

Rock On Sister...........

regards,

bob   

Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:26 pm
w30bob wrote:

Ritz...........imagine if everyone had YOUR attitude!  Wow, what a world it would be.  Problem children are always the most interesting.  Whenever I go see a new Doc and they've only read my file and not seen me in person........the first thing they say is......wow, you look good.  Based on what they read I assume they expect to see a dead man walking.  I bet you wow them the same way as well!  So despite them being clueless.......we're still here!  You've sure been thru a lot.....I know I'm impressed!  I guess there's a few of us out there that defy the odds......or are just give life the middle finger on a regular basis.......same thing I guess.  We all get to dead..........it's HOW we get there that defines us.  

As for farting........I think it's one of those things that's cute when we're young..........and becomes cute again when we're old..........and it's only taken seriously when we're in the middle.  My stoma's been more and more vocal lately, but I swear it's only at the quietest times when I'm either in a meeting or talking to someone one on one.  I can tell by the expression on their face when it happens that they're confused.  I just let 'em think about it while we continue our conversation. I often wonder if they ever figure it out? 

Rock On Sister...........

regards,

bob   

I think it's hilarious if my Ileo makes noises when it's quiet and someone hears it ...it has a unique sound like no other . It's the swelling or when it fills and one can see a bulge , they look ,sometimes I kinda hold it up and I just say I'm a packin mama! Here in AZ we can carry ....I don't have the pleasure of a flannel shirt to hide it ...oh well, I just don't care anymore if everyone knows . I'm in my own world...they like it or too bad for them. I'm alive and I like who I am.... Just stay bobbing Bob, who cares

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