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Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:37 pm
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  patrickrichardson1946 wrote:  

i think everyone whos hospitalised is entitled to the best care possible . i do agree that prevention is better than cure . a scottish christian missionary to china earned a lot of respect by his motto ," god helps those who helps themselves".

 



I agree:)) Just because someone doesn't want to do the jab, doesn't necessarily mean that they are not being proactive about their health. There are many other natural means for keeping healthy against this virus. But the media , owned and manipulated by Pharma does not want you to know that. I am being VERY proactive on my family's health and what we are doing will protect us not ONLY against COVID but all viruses with no side effects except good health:)

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Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:54 pm

what natural means?

governments all around the world are spending vast amounts of money, the top scientific , medical people in the world have developed the vaccines , tested and approved them. 

i do not believe that a gigantic conspiracy that you imply could fool all the goverments of the worlds intelligence services.

the vaccine developed and distributed in the uk was sold at cost price .

have you and your family never had a vaccination in your lives?

if you in your own mind are dead set against taking the vaccine , nothing anyone say's will persuade you otherwise .

 

Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:52 pm

What 'natural' means are you using to protect yourself from Covid19???  The media is owned and manipulated by pharma??  That is a new one on me!!  Honestly, you scare me.  I hope you are not exposing your unvaccinated self to others around you, but I fear that you are.  I guess it's no surprise that the Covid rates are skyrocketing in the southern U.S.  If I was a believer, I would pray for you.

 

Terry

Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:42 pm

 

  delgrl525 wrote:  

What 'natural' means are you using to protect yourself from Covid19???  The media is owned and manipulated by pharma??  That is a new one on me!!  Honestly, you scare me.  I hope you are not exposing your unvaccinated self to others around you, but I fear that you are.  I guess it's no surprise that the Covid rates are skyrocketing in the southern U.S.  If I was a believer, I would pray for you.

 

Terry

 



It's simple. Look at the sponsors. These are mostly medical adds. The stations need the money to survive so they only broadcast the narrative that they are told. As for my "unvaccinated self", interesting, what makes you assume that I would be sick when I am not??

I use Orthomolecular medicine, Homeopathy, amongst other things. Tried and true. And you may diss it, but that is only because you haven't taken the time to know what it really is. NONE of this is political in my case. This is REAL science. It is not up to me to educate someone that does not look for this themselves. It would take too long. I respect your choice. Please respect mine. It is just as valid and has no side sffects except a strong immune system with no side effects:)

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Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:35 pm

Vikinga, of course you have a choice. But I can't buy that either orthomolecular Medicine or homeopathy are REAL science. Both have been debunked as quackery. The results cannot be predicted or relied upon, and are only as effective as a placebo. It's one thing to use mega doses of vitamins to keep oneself healthy - if one is already healthy, for the most part, there won't be much harm (except in the case of fat soluble vitamins, and there is the potential for severe harm), but it is quite another thing to fight off a particularly nasty virus. We had a veterinarian in my area several years ago who called himself a homeopath. He was stripped of his registration to practice because he was inoculating livestock against rabies with what amounted to water. His homeopathic remedy would not have caused harm in the livestock, but it didn't protect them against rabies either. The bottom line, Vikinga, is that you are free to do what you want with your body. But please don't call it science. The scientific community takes issue with that, as it should. Good luck to you.

 

Laurie

Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:38 pm

 

  Padfoot wrote:  

Vikinga, of course you have a choice. But I can't buy that either orthomolecular Medicine or homeopathy are REAL science. Both have been debunked as quackery. The results cannot be predicted or relied upon, and are only as effective as a placebo. It's one thing to use mega doses of vitamins to keep oneself healthy - if one is already healthy, for the most part, there won't be much harm (except in the case of fat soluble vitamins, and there is the potential for severe harm), but it is quite another thing to fight off a particularly nasty virus. We had a veterinarian in my area several years ago who called himself a homeopath. He was stripped of his registration to practice because he was inoculating livestock against rabies with what amounted to water. His homeopathic remedy would not have caused harm in the livestock, but it didn't protect them against rabies either. The bottom line, Vikinga, is that you are free to do what you want with your body. But please don't call it science. The scientific community takes issue with that, as it should. Good luck to you.

 

Laurie

 



Laurie, What YOU call "science " is a joke paid for by big Pharma. Orthomolecular medicine was started by Linus Pauling, a Nobel Prize winner. Homeopathy has been aound a LOT longer than you or I so I guess there must be SOMETHING to it and I have personally used it myself for over 30 years. In the history of Orthomolecular/vitamin use, there has NEVER been a case of death from it's use, The VAERS website it self has now over 11,000 deaths listed from this jab and another 410,000 serious adverse events. But they UNDERREPORT. Europe has just as bad a report. These are GOVERNMENTAL reporting sites, NOT quakery. But hey, you do you and I will continue to follow the nobel prize winners advice and reports. A FRENCH Nobel Prize Virologist also warns against this jab. There are so MANY highly credentialed SCIENCTISTS speaking out but being hushed by censorship. But hey, wear blinders if you like.

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Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:13 pm

 

  vikinga wrote:  

 

 

Laurie, What YOU call "science " is a joke paid for by big Pharma. Orthomolecular medicine was started by Linus Pauling, a Nobel Prize winner. Homeopathy has been aound a LOT longer than you or I so I guess there must be SOMETHING to it and I have personally used it myself for over 30 years. In the history of Orthomolecular/vitamin use, there has NEVER been a case of death from it's use, The VAERS website it self has now over 11,000 deaths listed from this jab and another 410,000 serious adverse events. But they UNDERREPORT. Europe has just as bad a report. These are GOVERNMENTAL reporting sites, NOT quakery. But hey, you do you and I will continue to follow the nobel prize winners advice and reports. A FRENCH Nobel Prize Virologist also warns against this jab. There are so MANY highly credentialed SCIENCTISTS speaking out but being hushed by censorship. But hey, wear blinders if you like.

 



Good luck, Vikinga.

 

Laurie

Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:38 am

 

  vikinga wrote:  

 

 

Laurie, What YOU call "science " is a joke paid for by big Pharma. Orthomolecular medicine was started by Linus Pauling, a Nobel Prize winner. Homeopathy has been aound a LOT longer than you or I so I guess there must be SOMETHING to it and I have personally used it myself for over 30 years. In the history of Orthomolecular/vitamin use, there has NEVER been a case of death from it's use, The VAERS website it self has now over 11,000 deaths listed from this jab and another 410,000 serious adverse events. But they UNDERREPORT. Europe has just as bad a report. These are GOVERNMENTAL reporting sites, NOT quakery. But hey, you do you and I will continue to follow the nobel prize winners advice and reports. A FRENCH Nobel Prize Virologist also warns against this jab. There are so MANY highly credentialed SCIENCTISTS speaking out but being hushed by censorship. But hey, wear blinders if you like.

 



Keep in mind VAERS is self-reported AND unverified.

I no longer trust any data coming from the US regardless of source. It's far too politicized by both sides.

Israeli data is the gold standard IMO.

 

Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:32 am

 

  Bill wrote:  

Hello Poppy Red. I have contemplated similar scenarios several times throughout my life and, as yet, the worst case has not developed. I recall in the 1950’s, when they spread the horrid disease- myxomatosis, to kill off rabbits- (with little to no idea whether it would cross the species and infect humans). In some ways, I hoped that this would be the outcome, and that humans might learn something useful from such a tragedy. Unfortunately, It seems that humans are destined to self-destruct one way or another. However, covid19 and all the other viruses will be well down on the list of things to worry about if the world continues to warm up and the climate changes as drastically as presently being predicted. Alternatively, if the world's politicians continue to take us slowly and steadily towards WW3, where the choice of weapons is likely to be nuclear, then the 'fallout' from that may be predictably far worse and long-lasting than a mere virus. If history repeats itself, then it is unlikely that anyone, other than those who suffer the consequences of human’s destructive activities, will care enough to do anything constructive about it. One of the great advantages of being old, is that death, one way or another is inevitable, and it matters less and less what method of death is imposed upon us. Looking on the bright side; we won’t need to be concerning ourselves too much as to whether there will be a constant supply of stoma stuff available! Best wishes Bill

 



Well precised Bill. Nobody in charge is taking the climate seriously! All are too afraid to clamp down on our "luxuries", in case they will lose votes. Same everywhere. And nobody mentioning the effect of the burning forests on our atmosphere.....It seems we are priviledged to observe the fall of man....I guess all the easy fruits have been picked.....time to go! lol

Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:24 am

I was hesitant about the vaccine,as many people are, but went ahead with it. I'm 70 years old and don't want to get sick, whether it's covid or any other virus. I'm in the minority of mask wearers around here and I'll probably always wear a mask. Interesting how Lovely' s post was the only one to mention God.

Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:18 pm

with you bagface jabbed, masked and trusting our medical scientists and services.

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