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Thick output

Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:46 pm
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How do you guys deal with thick output with a drainable

Bag?

Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:20 pm

I open the bag and gently push output out

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Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:41 pm

What you eat will affect your output, Starches and carbs will cause it. I put a little bit of baby oil in my bag, it makes it easier to drop down or to push down into the bottom. I also leave a little air in the bag.

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:02 pm

Are you OK with the thick output, and just want to know how to easily get it out, or would you rather have looser output?  If I did nothing, my output would be really thick, and it definitely is a challenge to clean out the bag effectively.  I keep my output much looser by drinking lots of water, something that as an ileostomate, I should be doing anyway.  Most any liquid, or just water, will keep your output looser.  

Terry

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:56 pm

I don't know if this is right or wrong as I have never asked my ostomy nurse but if I have thick output and just pressing it out doesn't get enough to my liking, I'll take a little warm water and pour it into my bag, close it, move the bag around to wash out the thicker stuff that didn't come out. Works quite well but like I said, not sure if it's right or wrong. 

Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:39 am

I drink coffee and plenty of fluids to keep my output thin enough, however it doesn’t hurt to put some water in it and gently move it around to loosen it up and empty it.

Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:00 am

Same as Alex above, I will rinse with a little water if needed.  I also will drink more fluids so it doesn't stay thick.  Also, if the consistency is bothersome, make note of what you ate that caused the thicker output and then next time you eat that meal/snack also make sure you drink more fluids to help thin it out a little.  

Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:27 am

It's pretty amazing how easily you can tell when you need more fluids. I try to pump 80-100oz of fluids into me everyday, 60oz of water and then whatever else I drink....juice, milk, pop, protein drink, etc. 

Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:21 pm

I switched to closed bags only. No more emptying. If it needs to be emptied, I just remove it, throw it away and put a new one on. Medicare actually allows you to have 120 closed bags every 3 months. More than enough.

Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:35 pm


nal143 wrote:

I switched to closed bags only. No more emptying. If it needs to be emptied, I just remove it, throw it away and put a new one on. Medicare actually allows you to have 120 closed bags every 3 month...

Are you talking about just medicare pays for 120 bags? They will only pay for 60 for me. My output comes in small amounts sometimes several time a day, So I have to rinse and reuse as does a lot of people.

Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:47 pm

I know it's not Medicare but my insurance pays for either 20/month drainable or 60/month closed, plus the same amount of barrier rings and a box(50) of remover wipes, box(50) of barrier wipes, and a box(50) of lubricant/deodorant. They wouldn't pay for remover spray and I'm not sure about anything else. 

Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:06 pm

I misspoke about the number of closed bags Medicare will pay for. It's actually 180/3 months, not 120. So you can use 2 new bags every day if you needed to. 

Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:57 pm


AlexT wrote:

I don't know if this is right or wrong as I have never asked my ostomy nurse but if I have thick output and just pressing it out doesn't get enough to my liking, I'll take a little warm water and p...

Hi Alex, I read your response about thick output. I had colorectal cancer back in 2017 and my bag is also permanent. I have been using water to clean my bag out for years. It works great and adds life by at least a few days to each bag I wear. I was glad I’m not the only one in the world who does that. Thanx, Jim L.  Michigan 

Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:22 pm


xmarriott wrote:

Hi Alex, I read your response about thick output. I had colorectal cancer back in 2017 and my bag is also permanent. I have been using water to clean my bag out for years. It works great and adds l...

Good to know. 👍

Azdancer
Nurse
Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:17 pm

I always clean out my bag with warm water, open end, pour water in, close bag and slosh water good, open and drain. Great technique, keeps away odor and keeps bag clean. Been an RN for 40 yrs and always cleaned my patients bags the same way. Easy and convenient. 


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RN, BHA
Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:29 pm


Azdancer wrote:

I always clean out my bag with warm water, open end, pour water in, close bag and slosh water good, open and drain. Great technique, keeps away odor and keeps bag clean. Been an RN for 40 yrs and a...

Dang, I thought I came up with a great idea. 😁 Thanks for being a nurse(and to all the nurses on here), I've had some great ones take care of me over the last 18 months. Including my 4 doctors, 99% of the people that have dealt with me and my health issues have been awesome women. 

Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:32 pm


AlexT wrote:

I don't know if this is right or wrong as I have never asked my ostomy nurse but if I have thick output and just pressing it out doesn't get enough to my liking, I'll take a little warm water and p...

I pour water into my bag every time I empty it...not necessarily for thick output just like a clean bag....contrary to popular belief.. fortunately this does not cause any leakage problems for me....

Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:09 am

I was taught to use water for cleaning before I even left the hospital.  She gave me a large syringe like they use for tube feeding.  When that wore out I just use a large water bottle.  Been doing this since 2004.

Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:51 pm

Can be frustrating. . . use Hollister lube - helps a little. Sometimes you literally have to coax it down the bag from the outside, try to use a digging motion to get under it and move it down, rather than just pushing, that tends to push it under the bag to the skin, and that's trouble...you'll feel it sting!  Emptying is much easier if you keep a condi bottle handy, fill with very warm water, open bag, squirt in water, then swish around, it turns it loose from the bag where it'll flush, I do it 2, sometimes 3 times to completely empty, then wash the tail of the bag and put the clamp back on. You'll get the hang of it...

Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:55 pm


Azdancer wrote:

I always clean out my bag with warm water, open end, pour water in, close bag and slosh water good, open and drain. Great technique, keeps away odor and keeps bag clean. Been an RN for 40 yrs and a...

It's sad that many of the so-called "experts" at hospitals don't show you to use water! It is SO much easier, cleaner and quicker. Those that showed me how to do the bag thing, showed me to squeeze the poop out, then turn the tail of bag wrong side out, then wipe it clean! They ought to have half their salary taken away for such cruelty!!

Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:26 am


texazgal wrote:

I was taught to use water for cleaning before I even left the hospital.  She gave me a large syringe like they use for tube feeding.  When that wore out I just use a large water bottle.  Been do...

My hospital was lacking a bit. I had my six month scan and was told no cancer. Four months later at a different hospital I was not only diagnosed with a return of my colon cancer. With this new cancer my bladder is unable to produce and expel it in the normal way, so have t wear bags attached to my kidneys to collect my urine to go along with my stoma and it’s friendly bag


Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:42 am

I'm just finishing my first 3 weeks with my colostomy and am doing well with two piece drainable Hollister.  I need a convex flange and a belt because my old belly has contours, also use the Hollister sticky ring on the flange. 

My surgeon has me on a reducing dose of Miralax every morning to keep my output thin. He says some people use a bit of Miralax for output control permanently and we will see where I end up. I drink about 6 pints of water plus tea all day. I no longer will need to find bathrooms for pooping urgency but for urine output. 

As for the rinsing of the bag... I'm so confused at this point. I had two stoma nurses say YES and two stoma nurses say NEVER. So I called Hollister and they said NEVER. It can cause leakage and seal failure. So I dunno. I use the Hollister lubricating deodorizer in my pouch, it helps. I have no idea if I'm pancaking, as I'm still learning!

I hope you get your output adjusted to where it makes your emptying easier!  such a daily task should not be a challenge. 

Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:51 am


Anonymous wrote:

I'm just finishing my first 3 weeks with my colostomy and am doing well with two piece drainable Hollister.  I need a convex flange and a belt because my old belly has contours, also use the Holli...

Pancaking is where all your output stays right on your stoma and doesn't slide down to the bottom of the bag. I have issues with that. When I have it occur and it won't slide down when I jiggle the bag is when I'll add a little warm water to loosen it up and clean it off my stoma. I use the Hollister lubricant/deodorant also. 

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