Struggling to Stay Hydrated: Tips Needed

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rosebud621
Nov 13, 2024 6:16 pm

Does anyone have trouble keeping hydrated? I think I put out more than I drink. Any suggestions?

warrior
Nov 13, 2024 7:27 pm

Hi.. yes.. it's a big issue with us ileos..

You have to find the right amount of sugar.. salt... potassium.. and a few others.. but those three you look at these "hydration drinks".. and see how much is in them.

You also have to bulk up so you don't lose important nutrients too. Your output should be thickened.

Once you get into a routine, it's not a chore, but second nature.

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infinitycastle52777
Nov 13, 2024 7:48 pm

Yeah, I have a terrible time with hydration. I have stage 3 CKD as well as an ileostomy. I take potassium and magnesium supplements. My sodium is generally on the line between normal and low. I try to drink electrolyte drinks when I can; that helps. I also drink water mixed with electrolyte drinks. I like G Fit. It is low-cal and low-sugar without anything artificial in it. Also, it comes in a variety that has B vitamins in it. There, of course, are other electrolyte drinks like Pedialyte, which are good too. It can be hard to drink as much as you output, but just keep trying. Remember that water is not the best for hydration; electrolyte drinks are.

Mark1070
Nov 13, 2024 8:07 pm

Definitely. Dehydration is discussed throughout this UOAA guide:

https://www.ostomy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Eating_with_an_Ostomy_2022-02.pdf

Ben38
Nov 13, 2024 8:19 pm

Do you have an ileostomy or colostomy? If you have an ileostomy, avoid just drinking plain water all day. A few glasses are fine, but drinking excessive amounts will firstly make your output higher and, long term, cause kidney problems. Add squashes to water; coconut milk is really good for hydration. Have you had any of your small bowel removed? That makes a huge difference to output. If it needs it, you can take medications to slow output down. Sometimes it takes more than one medication; you may need a few different ones at intervals throughout the day. Possibly diet-related, it's worth keeping a food diary to see if anything in particular makes your output higher.

 

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Riva
Nov 14, 2024 1:19 am

Hi - living in Florida where it's easy to dehydrate, I use a product called H2Ors. Check it out online. They don't sell it at health food stores. Occasionally, Amazon will carry it. Best of luck.

w30bob
Nov 14, 2024 2:34 am

Hi rosebud,

First, you best not be outputting more than you're drinking or you'll find yourself in very deep shit pretty quickly. It's pretty easy to check, and your doc should be on top of that, but the rule of thumb is you should be urinating between 1 and 1.5 liters minimum in 24 hours. Any less than that and your kidneys are going to be in trouble. And when your kidneys go..........so do you.

With an ileo, you no longer have your colon in the game, and many times when patients are given an ileostomy for things like Crohn's, their terminal ileum and ileocecal valve may also have to be removed. Your terminal ileum is where 95% of your digestive bile is reabsorbed and recycled, as well as a small amount of water, and your ileocecal valve is what controls when your small bowel contents are released into your now nonexistent colon. Bottom line is the more small bowel you've had removed.........the harder it will be to hydrate. It's really that simple.

Without a colon and the ability to absorb water, you have to 'trick' the small bowel into absorbing it for you. You do that by drinking things with the proper ratio of sugar (glucose) and salt (sodium) to water. When the ratio is correct, water molecules will be dragged through the intestinal wall and you'll hydrate. If the ratio is wrong, it makes things worse. I've written about this a million times on here, so you can find all the details if you search..........or just go to the World Health Organization website and look at Oral Rehydration Solution (ORS) recipes to see what I'm talking about. Without a colon, we're pretty much just like people in third-world countries that suffer from chronic diarrhea from drinking bad water. Their colons are inflamed and thus cannot absorb water, so the ORS is given to them so they can hydrate through their small bowel until their colons heal and can absorb again.

You'll find drinks are grouped into three categories depending on their ratios of glucose and sodium to water. They are hypotonic, isotonic, and hypertonic. Hypotonic are drinks that don't have enough glucose or sodium per liter, isotonics are in the right ratio, and hypertonics have too much. Think of them like the three bears.........you want just right (i.e., isotonic). Hypotonic drinks are things like pure water or diet soda.......things lacking in sodium and/or glucose. Hypertonics are things like Coke or Pepsi, Gatorade, or orange juice, which all have way too much sugar and not enough sodium. Isotonics are ORS and similar products. Now the important part......if you drink hypotonic drinks.......like plain water or diet soda........you won't absorb any of it, and it will dilute the contents of your small bowel and wash that away before your small bowel can properly absorb the nutrients. If you drink hypertonic drinks....like a Coke or Sprite or apple juice......there's too much sugar in the mix. And when your small bowel senses too much sugar (or salt), it tries to correct it by dragging water from your cells into the small bowel to mix with what's there and get to the right ratio for it to be able to absorb. Normally, the water it pulled from your body to dilute the mix would simply be reabsorbed by your colon, and there'd be no issue. But without your colon, that water ends up in your bag, and you get even more dehydrated. Then you'll drink more, and the process just repeats, and before you know it, you're in the ER getting IV fluids. Again, the more small bowel you have.........the more you can get away with. But without a colon.........you have to adjust what you drink to make your small bowel do your colon's job too. Or you dehydrate or become malnourished.

That's a very quick explanation of a very in-depth subject, so I encourage you to dig into it deeper. Once you know how to properly hydrate, it simply won't be an issue. And being short-gutted.........I learned that very early on.

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RoCkStaR_Kelly
Nov 14, 2024 1:23 pm

These replies are phenomenal!

Ileostomy life is more difficult hydration and electrolyte-wise, and absorbing our nutrients! My biggest enemy is large sips of any water, drip drop, or electrolyte drink, which cancels it out. Small sips are still an adjustment over 2 years later! So every morning starts with sips of the electrolyte drink and water.

If you're looking to thicken the output, I normally go to regular or sweet potatoes; oatmeal works. I tried using bread, but wow, the gas was ridiculous. I hope you're able to take all these replies and apply them, and hopefully not suffer as you are.

ron in mich
Nov 14, 2024 3:00 pm

Hi all, like RSK said, sips are the key, whether it's water or any other liquids. If you mix it in with some applesauce or toast and peanut butter, you will retain the liquid longer, plus get more nutrients from the food.

rosebud621
Nov 16, 2024 2:45 pm

Thank you for your response. I will take your advice.

rosebud621
Nov 16, 2024 2:54 pm

I had my surgery 44 years ago, and no one explained to me what you just did, and I am so grateful. Thank you so much.

rosebud621
Nov 16, 2024 2:56 pm

Thank you for the good suggestions. I tend to drink too much at one time.

rosebud621
Nov 16, 2024 3:02 pm

I just copied what you wrote, and I am going to try to make an effort. I am Irish too, Sheridan. Thank you.

Paolo Joe
Nov 16, 2024 6:39 pm

So helpful, thank you!

Jayne
Nov 20, 2024 12:38 am

ditto

Understand how to compensate

Thank you for this introduction - a must for research for every member - thanks for highlighting the importance of managing hydration - yet again

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