Hi, sorry to be a bug.
I can't find the message someone wrote about layering the rings with the flange. I've never heard of this. I'd like to know if it's possible.
My stomach is flush or just under. The opening is on the side near the skin. I use so many products and still... leak.
I use spray that can lift bricks probably... but not leaks.
🤦🤦
Hope the right person with the right knowledge turns up soon; I'm sure they
will.
Best wishes,
Tony ☺️
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You can stick barrier rings together to make up height differences around your stoma. You can just cut a piece of barrier ring the size you need for the area with the height difference and press it into the other ring. I do it once in a while when I stretch my barrier ring too much and it's thinner than where I want it to be thickest (if that makes sense). 🤷♂️
Sorry you are having this problem. I'm wondering if you have discussed a stoma revision with your surgeon, or perhaps finding another surgeon? A flush stoma, or one that is below the skin surface, can be a really hard problem to overcome. If you are trying all kinds of products and not having any success, it might be the only course. Probably not what you want to hear, because no one wants another surgery, but it could greatly improve your quality of life.
Terry
SusanT uses a product called Torbot bonding cement; maybe she can advise you about this product.
A stoma that doesn't protrude at least 3/4 inch, or 19.05 mm above skin level will cause problems. Revision surgery should be able to pull the stoma out more.
Sticking out too much is much better than too little.
Hubz has a loop colostomy that sits flush or below, then protrudes out when sitting or standing, always falling back inside when he lies down. Sammy Stoma is all over the place!
He tried all the convex wafers and had nothing but leaks. He went to a 2-piece flat and uses a barrier ring to fill in the dip around the edge of the stoma to keep output from getting caught on the edge of the wafer and heading out sideways behind the wafer.
He overlaps the barrier ring on the side of the bellybutton, that being a low spot.
He occasionally gets leaks, usually when the output is too thick. Also, he keeps a layer of air in the bag so the output has room to fall out into the pouch. I don't know if any of this helps, but good luck!🌻
Hi GIG, what products are you using and what is your routine when making a change? Is your skin completely dry before putting the ring on? Some rings are more durable than others, and wearing a snug belt might also help.
Hello Terry, yes, I have had bowel reconstruction surgery and more. I'm thinking maybe I'm just changing. I have requested an ostomy nurse to come over.
Thank you so much.
Hi, I use Convatec from Coloplast. I use paste, the rings from Hollister, and white ones. I can't remember the name. I wear a two-piece. I let everything dry. Then I put the ring on after the flange is on. I use a Sure Seal ring, which is like plastic wrap, but it's like a sticker. I put it over the top for extra support and waterproofing. Then I put the pouch on. I find the ring... Paste spreads and covers part of my stoma. This causes leaks, or it leaks from the opposite side. I don't get it.
I'm going to get different samples from my nurse.
Thank you.
My oncologist/surgeon says it's fine. A nice round ball that pops out enough. 🤦 Lol it's me.
No more surgery for me. I've already done so many. I also just had surgery recently for cervical cancer. A major hysterectomy and then some surgery. I'm still trying to heal. I had leaking before the surgery.
Thank you
Hi Gig, I think you may be using too much product. After getting skin dry around the stoma, wrap the ring around starting at the bottom. I cut through one side of the ring to make wrapping it around easier. Then I press it down all the way around so it's flat, and then after warming the wafer, I apply that and again go around my stoma and press it flat.
Hi, thank you. I very well could be. This is what I was taught.
Do you put the ring around your stoma directly? Do you put it right at the edge of the skin? Then you push it down as much as you can? Does it not spread over your stoma? My opening is in the middle, but it continues to close to the edge. The ring always seems to spread and cover the stoma at the edge.
Do you warm it with your hands or a hair dryer?
Thank you.