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Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:26 pm

Hello everyone, well I received the verdict of the scan of my belly .... and indeed I have a hernia around my stoma ..... grrrrrrr ...

I am quite tired, after a ostomy, the year after an operation for a pilonidal sinus (it hurts like ....) and this year a Hernia .... will it ever end ???? ....

Well there, I let off steam ... thank you for reading me :) good.

Now I would like to have your experiences on the after operation of a hernia,

after how long have you been able to irrigate your stoma? Difficulty walking? back to work after how long ??

I'm waiting for all your answers because they can surely help me get through.

 

Please please help me :)

Thank you, thank you very much

Danielle from Quebec, Canada

 

 

 

Hello everyone ,

I have a question: have since you irrigated your Ostomy noticed that your belly has grown?

I find that it has grown a lot especially where my stoma is on the left side :( :(

I must admit that it worries me a little, I'm trying to lose weight but my stomach remains big.

Can this have to do with irrigation you think ??

 

Merci 

Danielle :)

 

 Hello everyone, well I received the verdict of the scan of my belly .... and indeed I have a hernia around my stoma ..... grrrrrrr ...

I am quite tired, after a ostomy, the year after an operation for a pilonidal sinus (it hurts like ....) and this year a Hernia .... will it ever end ???? ....

Well there, I let off steam ... thank you for reading me :) good.

Now I would like to have your experiences on the after operation of a hernia,

after how long have you been able to irrigate your stoma? Difficulty walking? back to work after how long ??

I'm waiting for all your answers because they can surely help me get through.

 

Please please help me :)

Thank you, thank you very much

Danielle from Quebec, Canada



Last edited by Shitt Happens on Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:09 pm; edited 2 times in total
Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:06 pm

Possible hernia as it's more stoma side? Hernia's don't always cause any problems......just worth looking into to rule it out 

Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:00 pm

Danielle, it does sound like a hernia if it is mostly on the stoma side. Best to consult your surgeon or ostomy nurse.

 

Laurie

Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:08 am
Padfoot wrote:

Danielle, it does sound like a hernia if it is mostly on the stoma side. Best to consult your surgeon or ostomy nurse.

 

Laurie


Merci, thank you Laurie i will :)

Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:09 am
panther wrote:

Possible hernia as it's more stoma side? Hernia's don't always cause any problems......just worth looking into to rule it out 


Merci, thank you Panther . :)

Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:59 pm

Yes Danielle, as the other respondees have said, if you have a bulge behind your stoma it is more than likely a parastomal hernia.

Unfortunately it will more than likely interfere with your irrigating.

Probably best to seek some professional advice.

Good luck.

V.J.

 

Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:07 pm
veejay wrote:

Yes Danielle, as the other respondees have said, if you have a bulge behind your stoma it is more than likely a parastomal hernia.

Unfortunately it will more than likely interfere with your irrigating.

Probably best to seek some professional advice.

Good luck.

V.J.

 


It might not interfere with irrigation. I also have a hernia, and 2 surgeons have told me that it shouldn't interfere with irrigation. I have found that to be the case, although I don't irrigate all that often. So, there is hope for Danielle, but you're right - she does need to get medical advice. We will keep our fingers crossed for her.

Laurie

Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:26 pm
Padfoot wrote:


It might not interfere with irrigation. I also have a hernia, and 2 surgeons have told me that it shouldn't interfere with irrigation. I have found that to be the case, although I don't irrigate all that often. So, there is hope for Danielle, but you're right - she does need to get medical advice. We will keep our fingers crossed for her.

Laurie


Thank you everyone, I saw my doctor today for another problem and she has sculted my stoma and gives me a rush appointment for a scan of my stoma where there is a hernia.

I'm scared but that's life :)

Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:28 pm
veejay wrote:

Yes Danielle, as the other respondees have said, if you have a bulge behind your stoma it is more than likely a parastomal hernia.

Unfortunately it will more than likely interfere with your irrigating.

Probably best to seek some professional advice.

Good luck.

V.J.

 

Thank you everyone, I saw my doctor today for another problem and she has sculted my stoma and gives me a rush appointment for a scan of my stoma where there is a hernia.

I'm scared but that's life :)

Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:18 pm

Hi,    I'm Marsha, and I have my ileostomy for  over 55 years.  But it took 3 surgeries ( when I was 15 2x and then again when I was 19)   I lost a lot of weight, at first, and then because of steroids, gained a lot of weight, and then....lost a lot when they took me off the steroids and  did the second surgery..   I was also in a back brace at the time.   So my body/ stomach musles  really took a beating.   I had an incional hernia, and the base of the incision, where they  had the drain...   By t he time I was 20,  despite a loss of weight, my belly was flabby, with a  loss of muslce tone..  That never got better...   And then I had two pregnancies, which stretchout my damaged skin, and lower belly musles even more..       It's good that you went to the dr, and take all the scans and  tests you need to..    My stoma is on the right,  but I have lived with a really big incisional  hernia, on the left side of my scar.....for more than 20  years.   More like thirty, if I think back..   All it does is get " bigger".   I was concerned about increasing the damage, if / when I exercised, and different doctors have different suggestions..  Some say , don't worry about it, others say, wear some kind of support..   I;ve done nothing about it, because at my age ( now 72)   non of themm want me to undergo any surgery..   I keep t hinking that the " seam will eventually split", but so far,  other than some physiological  weakness ( no sit ups)  it's not causing any problem.s.     Sometimes, the body changes are just a result of the surgery.   Best of luck.  Marsha

Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:42 am

Merci Thank you Immarsh.

What a story you have. Youa are a positif women :):). 

Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:16 pm

Hi Danielle,

As you know, I have been irrigating for several years and my stomach on both sides goes up and  down with my weight but do not feel it has ever varied due to irrigation. Even when I have irrigated with 1500 cc's and not gotten a great return has it felt like it expanded my stomach area.
Sounds like you have done the right thing in seeing your doctor. Hope the scan can answer your concerns!

Take care my friend,

Puppyluv  

Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:01 pm

 

Help me to understand please!!!!!!!!

Since how many years you do irrigation please????

Because i  just read from the Canadian Society for Intestinal Research:

....... People who have a colostomy and parastomal hernia, and who manage their stoma with irrigation,

may need to stop irrigations permanently. Irrigations can worsen symptoms and cause other complications.

You can consult your SI to discuss the possibility of changing to a regular ostomy appliance.......

What do you think??

 

Merci

Danielle

Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:45 pm
Shitt Happens wrote:

 

Help me to understand please!!!!!!!!

Since how many years you do irrigation please????

Because i  just read from the Canadian Society for Intestinal Research:

....... People who have a colostomy and parastomal hernia, and who manage their stoma with irrigation,

may need to stop irrigations permanently. Irrigations can worsen symptoms and cause other complications.

You can consult your SI to discuss the possibility of changing to a regular ostomy appliance.......

What do you think??

 

Merci

Danielle

Danielle, 

You could consult 10 doctors and get 10 different answers to this question. Ultimately, I don't think anyone really knows the answer. When I asked Dr Zane Cohen, at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto (one of the best colorectal surgeons in the country, according to my own colorectal surgeon), he told me that irrigation will not cause a hernia. Does Dr Cohen have the definitive answer? Who knows? There are so many ways in which one can get a hernia, it is impossible to know what caused yours. 

Laurie

Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:47 pm
Padfoot wrote:

Danielle, 

You could consult 10 doctors and get 10 different answers to this question. Ultimately, I don't think anyone really knows the answer. When I asked Dr Zane Cohen, at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto (one of the best colorectal surgeons in the country, according to my own colorectal surgeon), he told me that irrigation will not cause a hernia. Does Dr Cohen have the definitive answer? Who knows? There are so many ways in which one can get a hernia, it is impossible to know what caused yours. 

Laurie

 

Oh Laurie, I wish you were right and the irrigation wasn't the cause, so I could irrigate for several more years. Thank you for your positive feedback. And you, you irrigate for a long time ??



Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:13 pm
Shitt Happens wrote:



Danielle, my colostomy is almost 5 years old, and I started irrigation about 3 years ago. I don't irrigate all that often. If I am going out for the evening, or if I have a busy day planned, I will irrigate the night before. 


Laurie

Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:29 am

Help me to understand please!!!!!!!!

Since how many years you do irrigation please????

Because i just read from the Canadian Society for Intestinal Research:

....... People who have a colostomy and parastomal hernia, and who manage their stoma with irrigation,

may need to stop irrigations permanently. Irrigations can worsen symptoms and cause other complications.

You can consult your SI to discuss the possibility of changing to a regular ostomy appliance.......

What do you think??

 

Merci

Danielle.

 

Yes Danielle, I too have read that irrigation is not for those with a parastomal hernia.

I gave myself the hernia by attempting to lift weights without proper protection/support for my stomach area.

The parastomal hernia definitely interferes with the irrigation process...water going in and faeces "returning".

I rarely achieve a full evacuation, something I managed to do most of the time before "the bulge".

It is doubtful if irrigation can worsen symptoms or cause other complications but I could be wrong.

To finish, I will be continuing to irrigate for many years to come. It has been my saviour.

Keep well.

😷

V.J.

 

 

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