I'm using a new Genii silicone stoma bag. It sticks too well and I have problems removing it! Any ideas?
Ru
Nov 05, 2022 2:32 pm
CrappyColon
Nov 05, 2022 2:59 pm
I'm in the US so I'm not sure what product brands overlap. I use a Brava adhesive remover spray. Do you use (blanking on the technical name, haven't had my coffee yet) the "sticky wipes" before putting the flange on? If you do, perhaps you could skip that part?
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Posted by: Karen & Stella
Fay,
I am one of those few people who still have a lot of output at night. However, I suffer from short gut syndrome after seven bowel surgeries that led to the loss of much of my small intestine as well as my large intestine from the initial bowel cancer surgery. It does get better over time as your system adjusts, but an ileostomy can be a challenging adjustment. It's important to connect with a good Enterostomal Nurse - ET nurses who can help you problem-solve over time. It's been five years since my initial surgery, and I had a great visit with a new ET nurse in December. He really helped me with the problem of high output at night. I had been getting up every 90-120 minutes to empty my high output bag because of filling. If I slept for three hours without emptying, I would have problems. My ET nurse helped my husband and me make a nighttime collection system using a Rubbermaid juice container with a handle and my old CPAP hose. This is connected to one of my two-piece high output bags and allows for continual drainage. It isn't pretty, but it has been a real lifesaver. I guess the real message I want to share is to stick with it, find a nurse who you can work with, and together you will find solutions to whatever challenges you face. This website is also an important support for me and others. There is nothing you will go through that others haven't already faced and figured out. There is so much wisdom here. Read the materials they've put together for newbies. There are a lot of great suggestions to use. I hope things get better quickly for you.
Karen
I am one of those few people who still have a lot of output at night. However, I suffer from short gut syndrome after seven bowel surgeries that led to the loss of much of my small intestine as well as my large intestine from the initial bowel cancer surgery. It does get better over time as your system adjusts, but an ileostomy can be a challenging adjustment. It's important to connect with a good Enterostomal Nurse - ET nurses who can help you problem-solve over time. It's been five years since my initial surgery, and I had a great visit with a new ET nurse in December. He really helped me with the problem of high output at night. I had been getting up every 90-120 minutes to empty my high output bag because of filling. If I slept for three hours without emptying, I would have problems. My ET nurse helped my husband and me make a nighttime collection system using a Rubbermaid juice container with a handle and my old CPAP hose. This is connected to one of my two-piece high output bags and allows for continual drainage. It isn't pretty, but it has been a real lifesaver. I guess the real message I want to share is to stick with it, find a nurse who you can work with, and together you will find solutions to whatever challenges you face. This website is also an important support for me and others. There is nothing you will go through that others haven't already faced and figured out. There is so much wisdom here. Read the materials they've put together for newbies. There are a lot of great suggestions to use. I hope things get better quickly for you.
Karen
AlexT
Nov 05, 2022 3:24 pm
Adhesive remover spray (I use Adapt/Hollister) works the best. Once I get the bag/barrier ring off, then I use a couple adhesive remover wipes to make sure I got everything off.
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w30bob
Nov 05, 2022 3:45 pm
Hi Ru,
That's a very interesting product you're using there (link below). They make some pretty bold claims.......I'm anxious to hear how they work for you, other than the adhesion issues.......so please let us know. And their bags even come in colors!!!
The suggested things normally used to remove adhesive on ostomy barriers won't work on silicone, which is what you're using. Silicone is a bit tough to remove or dissolve, and usually it's removed by physically rubbing and peeling. But that's not what you want to hear. So here's a list of things that will dissolve silicone, but may take some time to work. In no particular order........and be careful as some of these solvents your skin might not like...so test prior......here you go
https://trioostomycare.com/products/trio-genii/
Baby wipes (sometimes they work, sometimes not....depends on the formulation)
WD-40
Vinegar
Rubbing Alcohol
Isopropyl Alcohol
Baking soda and butter
Nail polish remover (i.e., acetone)
I'm sure there are others, but you get the message......they're solvents, except for the baking soda and butter, which grinds down the silicone while the butter protects your skin. Let us know what works.
;O)
Torok
Nov 05, 2022 5:10 pm
Yes, the adhesive remover spoken about. I do have to say I've got to check out this product you're talking about. Nothing ever sticks well for me and I have to use additional adhesive strips to make them stick to my skin. I usually have to change every 2 or 3 days because mine is falling off. I use a Hollister product. Can't wait to try this one. Thank you.
Well BOO, it's UK only. I'm requesting a sample and sending it to a friend's address, and she'll forward it to me. I need something that is like super glue on me. LOL
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Bill
Nov 05, 2022 6:59 pm
Hello Ru.
I just had a quick look on their website, and they do a silicone remover spray 'Trio Elite® Sting Free Adhesive Remover', which also comes in wipes.
This seems the obvious first choice as it will no doubt be available on prescription with the NHS. However, I would be inclined to ring the firm (0800 531 6280) and ask their advice and perhaps ask them to send some samples before you put it on prescription.
Best wishes
Bill