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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:42 pm

Does anyone know of any books that deal specifically with the mental and emotional (depression and anxiety) recovery to health/medical circumstances. Most books mostly just deal with depression/anxiety in relation to life in general. Thanks.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:34 pm

Hi Pan Bukowski.  I'm sure there are tons of books regarding depression and anxiety with specific attention to physical traumas.  I Google everything these days and we might find references to the literature we're looking for.  We might also find some very helpful information and/or advice relative to these after effects.  My research led me to believe anxiety, depression, PTSD,. etc. are conditions to expect in varying magnitudes after going through all the crap we went through.  I also found some good advice right here on MAO from some kind, caring and very bright folks.  I think specific questions get more meaningful answers.  Please let us know what you find.  You'll help lots of us.

Respectfully,

Mike

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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:30 am

Hello bukowski. You  ask a very specific question and it might be difficult to find books relating to that subject. However, there are a couple of things which might prove helpful. It is the sort of thing that people study for research degrees, so if you look for academic research papers, rather than books, you might fing what you are looking for. My second suggestion is that you might like to view the phenomenon as a natural reaction to a traumatic experience, which tends to be generic across different traumas.  There has been a wealth of material written in recent years, As Mike says, it's mostly under the heading Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PSTD). You are certainly not alone!

Best wishes

Bill 

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:56 pm

Hi Pan,  

As several people have already pointed out, you certainly are not alone.  I have severe PTSD from the whole experience and am trying to deal with it.  I can't sleep worth beans at night.  When I try to fall asleep, it all comes rushing back.  My cancer doctor has prescribed Lorazapam, an anti-anxiety drug for me to take at night when I want to go to sleep.  It helps, but I'm only supposed to take it every other nite to avoid a physical addiction. So I only sleep semi-decently every other nite.    I'm hoping time will take care of the healing... eventually.  Good luck to you.

Linda

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:02 pm
weirdnewlife wrote:

My cancer doctor has prescribed Lorazapam, an anti-anxiety drug for me to take at night when I want to go to sleep.  It helps, but I'm only supposed to take it every other nite to avoid a physical addiction. So I only sleep semi-decently every other nite.


Hi Linda. Not trying to hijack this thread, but have you tried hypnosis? Sometimes the power of suggestion can be helpful...

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:12 am

Yes, the Bible!! 

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:12 am

Hi,

I had two life saving sugeries in 2012, had to relearn to walk 3 times, spent 6 months "on tour" in hospitals. I found that practicing gratitude for any and everything was key. I never heard the words UC until after my colon was removed. I spent a lot of time rsearching UC and what causes it. Best I could see was that inflammation is at the root, other than that they don't know what causes it. So I started researching how to treat my inflammation naturally. I started making myself an organic Turmeric Latte every morning first thing. That together with other supplements helped my recovery. I now don't feel any or see any inflammation from UC. I found empowering myself through my own research really helped. I also became the VP of our local ostomy support group to help others. And I teach a spiritual ( ACIM) class at a local church. Getting out of feeling powerless and victim mentality is key. Helping others is key. What you focus on grows in power.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:02 pm

I've tried hypnosis before when I was trying to quit smoking.  Tried 2 different psychologists and a "party" hypnotist who didn't seem to have any trouble hypnotizing other people.  None of the 3 could get me to go under.  Seems I'm "unhypnotizable."  So it goes.   I am starting to sleep a little better these days, though.  Don't need the lorazapam as much as I did in the first few months.  It'll get better....eventually.   Thanks for the suggestion, though.  I appreciate it.



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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:40 pm

Amen sister! The law of attraction,sowing positive reaps positive.Sow negative and reap negative.Hypnosis is demonic.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:14 pm

I enjoyed reading all the sugestions, but I need real treatments I can try.  I am only 3.5 months out of chemo, Had my cancer/hernia/colostomy surgery in Nov.'17.  Now I am dealing with all the 'collalteral damage' that my 'successfull' recovery has caused.  For the next six months , I have many follow-ups, test and procedures to be sure I am absolutely clear. While I am truly grateful for the incredible medical care, I now found myself in the worst state of depression and PTSD I've ever experienced.  Twenty years ago a traumatic event caused me to experience panic attacks, and eventually signs of PSTD and clinical depression.  SO, from that experience I know that PTSD can be cured, as can panic attacks, neither of which I have had in over 20 years.  With all the work, self care and record keeping for a 'good result', plus the novelty of learning to address and take care of your stoma: trying all sorts of new products, reading everything you can find, you're too busy to reflect on much except pain management and healing.

Then it's over. Here I am, with no one except a book full of doctor appointments and procedure follow ups.  I wonder if any of it was worth it.  Up to now 'Stomy' was not an issue.  NowI hate this thing and everything about it.

POST SCRIPT: Don't address the 'clinical depression', I was born with it, as was my father.  Thanks to his wisom, that's one bullet I can dodge without drugs or therapy.  It's hell,but it goes away in time.  THE PROBLEM: all three of these hitting hard at once.

I will read any and all replies, this group has already taught me so much, I know there is a gem of wisdom out there I can't see in my current state.

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:08 pm

Hi, I had horrible depression and anxiety after both of my emergency surgeries.  The second round was worse than the first and I am still dealing with it.  You just gotta take each day one at a time and make the best of it.  If it is any constellation,  it does get better.   

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:19 pm

Hi Dis.  I think the gem(s) of wisdom were found already. You own them. You seem to have handled your situations so well with the documentation, follow ups, procedures and good, hard intellectual effort. You hate “Stormy” the way so many of us hate our things even though our lives might’ve been saved by them. Lots of us have gone through similar stuff and some of us were not able to handle it at all. Some did way better. We’re all different from each other and we feel things differently. In my opinion, you’re a very wise and determined Lady. You “listen” and you’re determined to make it all better. You will! Your patience and our contributions will help get you there.
Thanks for sharing.
Respectfully,
Mike

  Past Member
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:20 am
I received my bag in March of 18. I decided to not be upset about it. I am beating cancer, and I will not allow cancer to beat me. The bag to me is as if I lost a limb. I don't complain about it. I brag about having 2 butts. This way I can now take a dump standing up. Less usage of the toilet paper, as well. I know someone who lives in Tonawanda, NY. Not certain if they are still there.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:22 am

Thank you for your postive and inspirational words.  I'll keep plodding along, doing what I must to get and stay well. I am impatient for the day when the physical will not so dramatically affect the mental and emotional.  At that point, I will be able to have a life, instead of sitting around like a pudding having to force myself to do the simplest, daily tasks.

Thank you again for your insight.

dls

  Past Member
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:30 pm
Sorry to hear he was such a pain in the butt towards you. Even if mine leaves me due to my bag, I will be OK with it. I have learned to be prepared for the worst, while praying for the best. You are proving to him you are better than him. If he gives you a hard time, remind him he can kiss both of your butts!!!
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